Long term health risks of AAS ?

[PK-V]

You
You regularly cut and paste portions of studies without citing refernece. You regularly cut and paste posts other people have made regarding contentions without acknowledging it was a statmeent made by them. Often it seems you try to make it appear the contentions and even the posts were originated by you. If you waqnt to appear you have experienced based information to share - simply share your experience - not cut and paste others making it appear its your own. You clearly did this in a thread re GH and distennded abdomen where i called you out on it. Also if you cite sentences from scientific articles or snippets of studies to support your contentions - have the integrity to post appropraite references- something you never do. Hell ive seen you damn near post full studies and not cite reference.
Its one thing to post opinion - but if your going to post as you do - do it with some integrity IMO....

First off nothing compares to real world experience, something we both agree on!

If I have posted someone else's work or posted information without referencing usernames or asking for permission then I apologize if they were offended, it gets a bit of a pain in the ass to reference every single post when something is generally regarded as factual science.

Every post I made in this thread are abstracts taken from studies, I could understand if people were getting offended if I was trying to pass off stuff I pulled out of my ass as science.

In relation to the response on the GH gut repost, it was the closest I have come to fully understanding the situation. Fact is we will never have and solid proof until they do a long term study on drug abusing bodybuilders. The science that is currently available shows truth on the paper in relation to what appears to be happening. I posted it up not to pass it off as my own work but to start a discussion on the matter.

I don't go out of my way to start WWIII every time I post here
But you entitled to your opinion and I regard it as constructive criticism and will take it on board

[jimmyinkedup]

First off nothing compares to real world experience, something we both agree on!

If I have posted someone else's work or posted information without referencing usernames or asking for permission then I apologize if they were offended, it gets a bit of a pain in the ass to reference every single post when something is generally regarded as factual science.what about when its someone elses opinion - like in the gh/distended ab thread?

Every post I made in this thread are abstracts taken from studies, I could understand if people were getting offended if I was trying to pass off stuff I pulled out of my ass as science.my point is refernce the study appropriately if you are going to quote portions (often large portions) of it. Cite the full info immediately following the pasted portion or at bottom of post. You obviosuly have the info at your fingertips - you cut and pasted the statement.
ie: Clin Med Res. 2007 Jun;5(2):114-20.
Effects of resistance training on ventricular function and hypertrophy in a rat model.
Barauna VG, Rosa KT, Irigoyen MC, de Oliveira EM.
SourceSchool of Physical Education and Sport, University of São Paulo, São Paulo, Brazil
In relation to the response on the GH gut repost, it was the closest I have come to fully understanding the situation. Fact is we will never have and solid proof until they do a long term study on drug abusing bodybuilders. The science that is currently available shows truth on the paper in relation to what appears to be happening. I posted it up not to pass it off as my own work but to start a discussion on the matter.In which case I think it prudent to say "this is what a former ifbb pro had to say about this. I agree. Any thoughts?

I don't go out of my way to start WWIII every time I post here
But you entitled to your opinion and I regard it as constructive criticism and will take it on board

Cant ask for mnore than that

[dec11]

First off nothing compares to real world experience, something we both agree on!

If I have posted someone else's work or posted information without referencing usernames or asking for permission then I apologize if they were offended, it gets a bit of a pain in the ass to reference every single post when something is generally regarded as factual science.

Every post I made in this thread are abstracts taken from studies, I could understand if people were getting offended if I was trying to pass off stuff I pulled out of my ass as science.

In relation to the response on the GH gut repost, it was the closest I have come to fully understanding the situation. Fact is we will never have and solid proof until they do a long term study on drug abusing bodybuilders. The science that is currently available shows truth on the paper in relation to what appears to be happening. I posted it up not to pass it off as my own work but to start a discussion on the matter.

I don't go out of my way to start WWIII every time I post here
But you entitled to your opinion and I regard it as constructive criticism and will take it on board

i have to agree with jimmy here mate, you do go overboard on the cut and paste thing, some things are better responded to by experience rather than medical journal.

[PK-V]

Cant ask for mnore than that

i have to agree with jimmy here mate, you do go overboard on the cut and paste thing, some things are better responded to by experience rather than medical journal.

Taken on board

[dec11]

Taken on board

taken like a man