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    In a recent study done on Tamox , Tore and Rolax comparing HPTA restoration. Tamoxifen can out on top. In 8 weeks, 20mg/ED of Tamoxifen increased LH from 4.54 to 7.73 (+70%) and Test from 496.59 to 835.06 (+71%). After two months, 60mg/day of Toremifene increased LH from 4.05 to 5.05 (+25%) and Test from 496.59 to 709.79 (+42%).

    One thing I will say though, is that the Tore dose is at 60mg/ED for 6-8 weeks, which IMHO is a low dose fo PCT . If you've read above? You'll see that I suggest a fair bit more (120/100/60/60/60) is what I suggest now. So although this study states Tamox is superoir to Tore, take the doses into account.

    Again, even recent research on Tamox doesnt raise serum T by 146% as Clomid dose at 25mg/ED for 4-6 weeks"

    isnt this from ur thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
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    In a recent study done on Tamox , Tore and Rolax comparing HPTA restoration. Tamoxifen can out on top. In 8 weeks, 20mg/ED of Tamoxifen increased LH from 4.54 to 7.73 (+70%) and Test from 496.59 to 835.06 (+71%). After two months, 60mg/day of Toremifene increased LH from 4.05 to 5.05 (+25%) and Test from 496.59 to 709.79 (+42%).

    One thing I will say though, is that the Tore dose is at 60mg/ED for 6-8 weeks, which IMHO is a low dose fo PCT . If you've read above? You'll see that I suggest a fair bit more (120/100/60/60/60) is what I suggest now. So although this study states Tamox is superoir to Tore, take the doses into account.

    Again, even recent research on Tamox doesnt raise serum T by 146% as Clomid dose at 25mg/ED for 4-6 weeks"

    isnt this from ur thread?
    The study was not done on the same individuals. Thats the mistake I made.

    You cannot compare SERMs on two different populations, that suffer from hypogonaidsm and the other setting azoospermia or idiopathic oligozoospermia. The baseline levels to qualify for the studies alone will vary.

    Comparing the final conclusion or outcome of two different studies, and then saying X is better than Y puts you on various precarious ground, because of the many variables each study has.

    There is one comparable study on both Tamox/Clomid and Tamox showed better results, though, serum T was not tested.

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