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    Quote Originally Posted by DAAS View Post
    i said " boost testosterone production" and you said no " it stimulates your body's own production". LOL So if you thought by boost i meant diminish then I can see the discrepancy. Usually boost means increase.

    And I realize it is a SERM technically, but it DOES elevate testosterone levels, so what ever you want to call it I dont see how it can not aid in some way to gains... when I was off clomid for 2 days I got my levels tested and they were off the charts. Im sure a cycle of Testosterone would make my levels much higher but regardless, they were probably double my natural levels.
    you're beginning to piss me off now, boosting and stimulating arent the same, dont patronise. why would anyone inject AAS if it worked? answer that

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you're beginning to piss me off now
    Ha Ha. I love it! I'm with ya dec11!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you're beginning to piss me off now, boosting and stimulating arent the same, dont patronise. why would anyone inject AAS if it worked? answer that
    your being a retard. boosting testosterone production is the same thing as stimulating it. Just because I use the word boost, obviously your mind jumps and thinks about OTC test boosters and your like "NO THOSE DONT WORK RAWR!!, THERES NO SUCH THING AS A TEST BOOSTER ROAR". When in fact clomid and Nolva raise testosterone levels by increasing(boosting/stimulating) its production. We are obviously saying the same thing. Now like I said before other then Nolva's eventual risk of possibly lowering IGF why wouldnt it help? and Like you said before YOU dont know.

    and as far as your question about injecting AAS i already said that would make test levels much higher(aka more gains) so thats why..obviously. BUt i dont see how being on nolva or clomid and having test levels being >1500ng/dL wouldnt have some sort of (perhaps small) advantage. People are making it sound like it would do absolutely nothing, and all im asking for is for some one to tell me why. Cause obviously neither of us know WHY, so thats all im asking. IM trying to educate myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAAS View Post
    your being a retard. boosting testosterone production is the same thing as stimulating it. Just because I use the word boost, obviously your mind jumps and thinks about OTC test boosters and your like "NO THOSE DONT WORK RAWR!!, THERES NO SUCH THING AS A TEST BOOSTER ROAR". When in fact clomid and Nolva raise testosterone levels by increasing(boosting/stimulating) its production. We are obviously saying the same thing. Now like I said before other then Nolva's eventual risk of possibly lowering IGF why wouldnt it help? and Like you said before YOU dont know.

    and as far as your question about injecting AAS i already said that would make test levels much higher(aka more gains) so thats why..obviously. BUt i dont see how being on nolva or clomid and having test levels being >1500ng/dL wouldnt have some sort of (perhaps small) advantage. People are making it sound like it would do absolutely nothing, and all im asking for is for some one to tell me why. Cause obviously neither of us know WHY, so thats all im asking. IM trying to educate myself.
    last time i'll be helping you out, you spastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you're beginning to piss me off now, boosting and stimulating arent the same, dont patronise. why would anyone inject AAS if it worked? answer that
    nolva increases free test in subjects with deminished levels only to a certain extent. not to an anabolic point. when you "boost" test thru FSH you will only respond to so much as it is not an actual hormone but a catalyst. and boosting and stimulating are not the same thing. if i turn on a light switch, i am turning the light on. not making it brighter. i got your back dec11

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