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[xelnaga]

^^actually the oppsite is true, the muscle would build around the gyno tissue not push it outward.

PH's can do this easily, but as for non-hormone modulating supplements doubtful that they caused it.

That makes 0 sense. Gyno is glandular tissue that sits on top of the muscle structure. Are you suggesting that a person pecs know there in gyno, so they take on a donut shape to accommodate the gyno tissue?

[guitario]

That makes 0 sense. Gyno is glandular tissue that sits on top of the muscle structure. Are you suggesting that a person pecs know there in gyno, so they take on a donut shape to accommodate the gyno tissue?

Logic would say a bigger chest would stretch the skin and spread the 'gyno' tissue aswell. Thus making it appear to be less when infact all that has happened is the chest area increased in size.

[Lemonada8]

Logic would say a bigger chest would stretch the skin and spread the 'gyno' tissue aswell. Thus making it appear to be less when infact all that has happened is the chest area increased in size.

This is pretty much it. When the pec enlarges, the nipple starts to turn to the bottom part of the lateral edge. When gyno is involved (granted if its bad enough it cant be hidden) it will help shape the pec at the bottom and would conform to the edge of the muscle tissue. It would be much less visible then and the only way to really see any hint of gyno is a purely relaxed pec muscle that is passively contracted (the thinker-man pose, where you lean forward and have your arm upwards, a good example is in the Superbass video the white guy leaning forward has gyno but its very minimal and cant really see it)

[xelnaga]

This is pretty much it. When the pec enlarges, the nipple starts to turn to the bottom part of the lateral edge. When gyno is involved (granted if its bad enough it cant be hidden) it will help shape the pec at the bottom and would conform to the edge of the muscle tissue. It would be much less visible then and the only way to really see any hint of gyno is a purely relaxed pec muscle that is passively contracted (the thinker-man pose, where you lean forward and have your arm upwards, a good example is in the Superbass video the white guy leaning forward has gyno but its very minimal and cant really see it)

That is a very wordy theory that will not apply to 99% of gyno cases. Increase pec size = more pronounced gyno. Your pecs will not magically grow around your gyno ( like you stated previously); gyno will not move to a less visible part of your chest after getting big. Gynecomastia.org has thousands of individuals with all sorts of gyno; it also has a few extremely experienced surgeons. They all agree that while surgery is the only option for perminant gyno, losing weight can help. And build up your pecs WILL make your glandular gyno more pronounced.

[dec11]

That is a very wordy theory that will not apply to 99% of gyno cases. Increase pec size = more pronounced gyno. Your pecs will not magically grow around your gyno ( like you stated previously); gyno will not move to a less visible part of your chest after getting big. Gynecomastia.org has thousands of individuals with all sorts of gyno; it also has a few extremely experienced surgeons. They all agree that while surgery is the only option for perminant gyno, losing weight can help. And build up your pecs WILL make your glandular gyno more pronounced.

agreed

[Bonaparte]

That makes 0 sense. Gyno is glandular tissue that sits on top of the muscle structure. Are you suggesting that a person pecs know there in gyno, so they take on a donut shape to accommodate the gyno tissue?

Got to agree here. Leaning out will shrink the gyno a bit, but an increase in pec size will never hide gyno.