CJC-1295/GHRP-6 doses/duration?

[GotNoBlueMilk]

First, if you get CJC-1295 make sure it is CJC-1295 without DAC, as you stated. CJC-1295 w/o DAC is also known as Mod GRF (1-29)

You always stack the GHRP with the Mod GRF. This way, you get more than twice the benefit of taking just the GHRP.

Saturation dose is 1 mcg / kg of body weight. For many, this is 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. So if you take 200 mcg of each, you won't double the benefit but you will experience a more benefit. So start out with 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. After you see how that goes, you can work up to 250 mcg of each at each dose if you desire. Taking 100 mcg of each is roughly the equivilent of taking 2-3 IU's of synthetic GH.

When taking peptides, avoid food for 2-3 hours before dosing. Avoid carbs/fats for 30 minutes after dosing.

Best times to dose is as follows for LBM:
1. Pre-bed. This is when the body does it's most healing and most muscle repair/growth.
2. Post resistance training workout. This makes the GH available right after a workout, for maximum muscle growth benefit.
3. If you are going to dose 3 times a day, then upon awaking and wait 30 mins to eat. If you do a fasted AM workout, dose before the workout. This will help you to metabolize fat and burn that during the fasted workout.

Keep in mind peptides will not give you the same result as dosing 10 IUs of synthetic GH in one shot. But they can easily be dosed 3-4 times a day for good, frequent pulses of GH. The pulse is actually preferred in many ways.

Look for the same symptoms as taking synthetic GH: carpel tunnel, hand numbness, etc. You will know the peptides are doing their job.

If you are taking melatonin in preperationfor a show or anything, you want to wait 30 minutes after taking the GHRP/Mod GRF before doing melatonin. Melatonin blunts the GH release. After 30 minutes, the pulse is over so you can then dose melatonin.

[Swifto]

First, if you get CJC-1295 make sure it is CJC-1295 without DAC, as you stated. CJC-1295 w/o DAC is also known as Mod GRF (1-29)

You always stack the GHRP with the Mod GRF. This way, you get more than twice the benefit of taking just the GHRP.

Saturation dose is 1 mcg / kg of body weight. For many, this is 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. So if you take 200 mcg of each, you won't double the benefit but you will experience a more benefit. So start out with 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. After you see how that goes, you can work up to 250 mcg of each at each dose if you desire. Taking 100 mcg of each is roughly the equivilent of taking 2-3 IU's of synthetic GH.

Is this 100mcg per day, or in one single shot?

So 100mcg = 2-3ius GH, or 100mcg 3x day = 2-3ius GH.

When taking peptides, avoid food for 2-3 hours before dosing. Avoid carbs/fats for 30 minutes after dosing.

Best times to dose is as follows for LBM:
1. Pre-bed. This is when the body does it's most healing and most muscle repair/growth.
2. Post resistance training workout. This makes the GH available right after a workout, for maximum muscle growth benefit.
3. If you are going to dose 3 times a day, then upon awaking and wait 30 mins to eat. If you do a fasted AM workout, dose before the workout. This will help you to metabolize fat and burn that during the fasted workout.

Keep in mind peptides will not give you the same result as dosing 10 IUs of synthetic GH in one shot. But they can easily be dosed 3-4 times a day for good, frequent pulses of GH. The pulse is actually preferred in many ways.

Look for the same symptoms as taking synthetic GH: carpel tunnel, hand numbness, etc. You will know the peptides are doing their job.

If you are taking melatonin in preperationfor a show or anything, you want to wait 30 minutes after taking the GHRP/Mod GRF before doing melatonin. Melatonin blunts the GH release. After 30 minutes, the pulse is over so you can then dose melatonin.

Bold.

Wow. Excellent.

Thank-you.

I have been reading datBtrue's posts and articles and he states he went as high as 2.1mg/wk (300mcg/ED or 100mcg 3x per day). Is this something that needs to be built up over time, rather than jumping straight in at that dose?

He also states he was at 2.1mg/wk GHRP-6 as well.

On my anabolic cycle I was at 2.1mgs of CJC-1295 + 2.1mgs of GHRP-6 per week for 6 weeks and grew well.

Then I reduced it down to 700mcgs - 1mg per week of CJC-1295 for 4 weeks and growth slowed and the insulin added some fat to my frame.

Moved it back to 2.1mgs of CJC-1295 and for the last week an a half and I am noticing a difference. Primarily the slin no longer adds fat to my frame and I believe the growth rate will resume.

Anyway...just my 2 cents. But from my own subjective use 700mcgs is too low to add a lot to a cycle while 2.1mgs is a bodybuilding dose.

Hey misterbigg bro you are gonna take this the wrong way I know, really I'm just playing, but maybe you should add some caffeine to the injection and that way you can say "WoW!".

Seriously though what are you doing? Are you running testosterone and insulin with the CJC/GHRP-6? How about a low dose of T3? Are you attempting to put on mass?

Did you prime your system by using CJC/GHRP-6 before your anabolic cycle?

Are you attempting to lose weight? Are you using CJC-1295/GHRP-6 by themselves?

Do you expect synthetic growth hormone to make changes in your physique by itself? If not why would you expect CJC-1295/GHRP-6 to do be able to do that?

Again I'm not being flippant at all and please don't take it the wrong way I'm just trying to see how you are using it and what you expect.

When you say "you ain't seen jack" does that mean these peptides have had no effect on your sleep or hunger?

Fill us in bro.

Do you also agree 6 weeks is sufficient time for a lean bulk?

[GotNoBlueMilk]

Bold.
I have been reading datBtrue's posts and articles and he states he went as high as 2.1mg/wk (300mcg/ED or 100mcg 3x per day). Is this something that needs to be built up over time, rather than jumping straight in at that dose?

He also states he was at 2.1mg/wk GHRP-6 as well.

Do you also agree 6 weeks is sufficient time for a lean bulk?

It is 100mcg of each peptide per shot. So for basic saturation doses, that would be 200 mcg (100 mcg Mod GRF and 100 mcg GHRP) per shot. If you work up to 250 mcg of each peptide per shot, and doing 3 shots a day, you are at 750 mcg a day of each peptide. In a week, that would be over 5.25 mg / week. So you can see Dat wasn't doing nearly as much as that. Again, the 250 mcg dose it a big dose. In reality, you are only getting about 40% more benefit from a 250 mcg dose than a 100 mcg dose. Frequency is key here. Doing multiple doses a day is better than one big one when it comes to peptides.

Dat was doing 3 doses a day and 7 days a week (this is standard for peptides we don't need to take a day off), then he was doing the standard saturation dose of 100mcg of each peptide. So yes, we was doing 2.1 mg of GHRP and 2.1 mg of Mod GRF in a week.

You definately want to work up to this. I personally started with 50 mcg of Mod GRF mixed with 50 mcg of GHRP-2 (I didn't want the hunger and any extra eating that can come with GHRP-6). I did that for a few days then went to 100 mcg of each peptide once a day. I started getting the typical carpel tunnel from this dose. I stopped for a few days while that cleared up and started again. Stops and starts seem to be the best approach for building up tolerance and being able to increase dosage.

Take a few weeks to build up to 3/day dosing. It may take longer for some, less time for others. Those who have done GH know about the carpel tunnel. It's annoying!

With regard to the duration and expectations, keep in mind that the same rules apply as a GH cycle. Dosing 3 times a day will produce results in 6 weeks; however, GH is not like AAS and you won't see the bulking up like you do from AAS in as short of periods. You will see results. I saw good results in 6 weeks but I'm not in the pro ranks by any means.

[Swifto]

It is 100mcg of each peptide per shot. So for basic saturation doses, that would be 200 mcg (100 mcg Mod GRF and 100 mcg GHRP) per shot. If you work up to 250 mcg of each peptide per shot, and doing 3 shots a day, you are at 750 mcg a day of each peptide. In a week, that would be over 5.25 mg / week. So you can see Dat wasn't doing nearly as much as that. Again, the 250 mcg dose it a big dose. In reality, you are only getting about 40% more benefit from a 250 mcg dose than a 100 mcg dose. Frequency is key here. Doing multiple doses a day is better than one big one when it comes to peptides.

Dat was doing 3 doses a day and 7 days a week (this is standard for peptides we don't need to take a day off), then he was doing the standard saturation dose of 100mcg of each peptide. So yes, we was doing 2.1 mg of GHRP and 2.1 mg of Mod GRF in a week.

You definately want to work up to this. I personally started with 50 mcg of Mod GRF mixed with 50 mcg of GHRP-2 (I didn't want the hunger and any extra eating that can come with GHRP-6). I did that for a few days then went to 100 mcg of each peptide once a day. I started getting the typical carpel tunnel from this dose. I stopped for a few days while that cleared up and started again. Stops and starts seem to be the best approach for building up tolerance and being able to increase dosage.

Take a few weeks to build up to 3/day dosing. It may take longer for some, less time for others. Those who have done GH know about the carpel tunnel. It's annoying!

With regard to the duration and expectations, keep in mind that the same rules apply as a GH cycle. Dosing 3 times a day will produce results in 6 weeks; however, GH is not like AAS and you won't see the bulking up like you do from AAS in as short of periods. You will see results. I saw good results in 6 weeks but I'm not in the pro ranks by any means.

Ok, I'll start at 100mcg of each once per day and adjust from there.

I'm assuming this shot (combination of both) needs to be done pre-bed for optimal effects?

And then switch to AM, PWO and pre-bed once I have introduced more shots per day.

I'm not going to assume I'm suddenly going to put a shit load of LBM on, but I am after results per se.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

I'm assuming this shot (combination of both) needs to be done pre-bed for optimal effects?

Yes, if doing just one dose a day, always choose pre-bed for that single shot. With peptides it's not like doing synthetic GH. When injecting synthetic GH pre-bed, you have to inject enough to match what your body would produce plus extra GH to increase base levels. For this reason many GH users inject AM if they are only injecting once a day because it is less expensive. With peptides, we do not diminish the GH release by our pitutitary, we stimulate it to release more. So pre-bed is the best benefit and best time for a single dose.

[Swifto]

Yes, if doing just one dose a day, always choose pre-bed for that single shot. With peptides it's not like doing synthetic GH. When injecting synthetic GH pre-bed, you have to inject enough to match what your body would produce plus extra GH to increase base levels. For this reason many GH users inject AM if they are only injecting once a day because it is less expensive. With peptides, we do not diminish the GH release by our pitutitary, we stimulate it to release more. So pre-bed is the best benefit and best time for a single dose.

What dose of synthetic GH dose something like 100mcg 3x day of each yield?

What about 250mcg of each multiple times per day?

(seeing as this is a sticky, I'm going to ask you some questions I already have a pretty good idea on anyway, if you dont mind?).

[GotNoBlueMilk]

What dose of synthetic GH dose something like 100mcg 3x day of each yield?

What about 250mcg of each multiple times per day?

(seeing as this is a sticky, I'm going to ask you some questions I already have a pretty good idea on anyway, if you dont mind?).

100 mcg produces the equivalent response of 2-3 IU's of synthetic GH. So this would be the same as doing 2-3 IU's of synthetic GH 3 times a day. The actual number depends on your age, health, pitutitary response, etc.
250 mcg produces the equivalent response of about 3-4 IU's of synthetic GH. So you spend 250% get 140% response. This is why many don't go about the 100 mcg saturation dose.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

One other word of caution. The peptides produce GH response, which also increases IGF. This can cause a rise in progesterone in many. I am gyno prone and I had to increase my AI dosage when I added in the peptides. I had to increase it quite a bit! I also observed that my free testosterone jumped really high. This caused increase in T to E2 conversion.

Now my total testosterone levels did not change, but my free testosterone when way up. This is a good thing for building mass, obviously. I think the increase in free testosterone was because the peptides also lowered my SHBG. But I can't really claim this to be the reason for the free testosterone increase. I'm going strickly off logic and not on evidence on this last point.

[dhriscerr]

One other word of caution. The peptides produce GH response, which also increases IGF. This can cause a rise in progesterone in many. I am gyno prone and I had to increase my AI dosage when I added in the peptides. I had to increase it quite a bit! I also observed that my free testosterone jumped really high. This caused increase in T to E2 conversion.

Now my total testosterone levels did not change, but my free testosterone when way up. This is a good thing for building mass, obviously. I think the increase in free testosterone was because the peptides also lowered my SHBG. But I can't really claim this to be the reason for the free testosterone increase. I'm going strickly off logic and not on evidence on this last point.

What if you continue to run this to after your cycle and pct tobridge between cycles do you just stay on an AI through out? I plan on running it 6 months atleast .

[PJCSTRONG]

First, if you get CJC-1295 make sure it is CJC-1295 without DAC, as you stated. CJC-1295 w/o DAC is also known as Mod GRF (1-29)

You always stack the GHRP with the Mod GRF. This way, you get more than twice the benefit of taking just the GHRP.

Saturation dose is 1 mcg / kg of body weight. For many, this is 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. So if you take 200 mcg of each, you won't double the benefit but you will experience a more benefit. So start out with 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. After you see how that goes, you can work up to 250 mcg of each at each dose if you desire. Taking 100 mcg of each is roughly the equivilent of taking 2-3 IU's of synthetic GH.

When taking peptides, avoid food for 2-3 hours before dosing. Avoid carbs/fats for 30 minutes after dosing.

Best times to dose is as follows for LBM:
1. Pre-bed. This is when the body does it's most healing and most muscle repair/growth.
2. Post resistance training workout. This makes the GH available right after a workout, for maximum muscle growth benefit.
3. If you are going to dose 3 times a day, then upon awaking and wait 30 mins to eat. If you do a fasted AM workout, dose before the workout. This will help you to metabolize fat and burn that during the fasted workout.

Keep in mind peptides will not give you the same result as dosing 10 IUs of synthetic GH in one shot. But they can easily be dosed 3-4 times a day for good, frequent pulses of GH. The pulse is actually preferred in many ways.

Look for the same symptoms as taking synthetic GH: carpel tunnel, hand numbness, etc. You will know the peptides are doing their job.

If you are taking melatonin in preperationfor a show or anything, you want to wait 30 minutes after taking the GHRP/Mod GRF before doing melatonin. Melatonin blunts the GH release. After 30 minutes, the pulse is over so you can then dose melatonin.

I am running the CJC and GHRP 6 right now. I am also using the IGF LR3. it has been 2.5 weeks and I have noticed some strength increases as well as 4-5 pounds without any change in eating habits. Have you used the IGF before? I noticed that after pinning I feel really good.

[kaptainkeezy04]

Keep in mind peptides will not give you the same result as dosing 10 IUs of synthetic GH in one shot. But they can easily be dosed 3-4 times a day for good, frequent pulses of GH. The pulse is actually preferred in many ways.

What do you mean, "will not give you the same result"? If I have legit high grade CJC and GHRP, and take 100mcg of each 3 times a day, can i not expect the same results I would get from taking 6-9 IU's of HGH?

[TJChicago]

Im looking for a place to purchase 20 Sermorelin/GHRP -6 6mg/3mg Vials and im looking for and average price with good quality. i have been on this for 2 months but need to find a cheaper cost high quality compound. is there any way you can help me. i have just started my life change to clean eating and working out . i need all the help i can get.

First, if you get CJC-1295 make sure it is CJC-1295 without DAC, as you stated. CJC-1295 w/o DAC is also known as Mod GRF (1-29)

You always stack the GHRP with the Mod GRF. This way, you get more than twice the benefit of taking just the GHRP.

Saturation dose is 1 mcg / kg of body weight. For many, this is 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. So if you take 200 mcg of each, you won't double the benefit but you will experience a more benefit. So start out with 100 mcg of each, taken at the same time. After you see how that goes, you can work up to 250 mcg of each at each dose if you desire. Taking 100 mcg of each is roughly the equivilent of taking 2-3 IU's of synthetic GH.

When taking peptides, avoid food for 2-3 hours before dosing. Avoid carbs/fats for 30 minutes after dosing.

Best times to dose is as follows for LBM:
1. Pre-bed. This is when the body does it's most healing and most muscle repair/growth.
2. Post resistance training workout. This makes the GH available right after a workout, for maximum muscle growth benefit.
3. If you are going to dose 3 times a day, then upon awaking and wait 30 mins to eat. If you do a fasted AM workout, dose before the workout. This will help you to metabolize fat and burn that during the fasted workout.

Keep in mind peptides will not give you the same result as dosing 10 IUs of synthetic GH in one shot. But they can easily be dosed 3-4 times a day for good, frequent pulses of GH. The pulse is actually preferred in many ways.

Look for the same symptoms as taking synthetic GH: carpel tunnel, hand numbness, etc. You will know the peptides are doing their job.

If you are taking melatonin in preperationfor a show or anything, you want to wait 30 minutes after taking the GHRP/Mod GRF before doing melatonin. Melatonin blunts the GH release. After 30 minutes, the pulse is over so you can then dose melatonin.