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    sorry havent read most but Clomid as a source for TRT is not as good as it seems. My doctor like you started with clomid first and yes it increases testosterone but he just attended a seminar in Harvard and the conclusion is you will get a raise in Test but not fully experience the effects of a true rise in testosterone

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    Quote Originally Posted by l2elapse View Post
    sorry havent read most but Clomid as a source for TRT is not as good as it seems. My doctor like you started with clomid first and yes it increases testosterone but he just attended a seminar in Harvard and the conclusion is you will get a raise in Test but not fully experience the effects of a true rise in testosterone
    It will raise test levels to a degree, but too much for too long of a time will end up lowering sensitivity to LHRH which slows production of Test.
    It also acts like a estrogen at the liver, which makes SHBG *as i say more below*
    Without something to control the production of SHBG (which gets higher as we get older anyways) It would be counter-productive for TRT. For fertility issues however it is a prime choice (usually cuz the person is younger and the SHBG isnt as high)
    The OP wants more kids, so for now clomid is the better choics. Test-rebound doesnt work as good, from the things ive seen/read/heard. IMO thats why if you want kids and TRT, you should try to do what you can w/o TRT first then if TRT is a must then make sure to use HCG to help keep everything going.. and with a good TRT dose for the individual body the extra test wont inhibit LH and FSH too much


    Quote Originally Posted by double chicken View Post
    Just received blood work:

    Testosterone Serum 525 ng/dl (348-1197)
    Free Testosterone 8.5 pg/ml (8.7-25.1)
    LH 10.4 mIU/L (1.7-8.6)
    FSH 12.4 mIU/L (1.5-12.4)

    That is because you doubled your dose. Clomid acts like an estrogen at the liver where SHBG is made, and that is a big cause for a low free test. Too much SHBG will hold on to the test longer so the free test in the blood will get used more resulting in a lower Free test level.
    Last edited by Lemonada8; 11-08-2011 at 06:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    It will raise test levels to a degree, but too much for too long of a time will end up lowering sensitivity to LHRH which slows production of Test.
    It also acts like a estrogen at the liver, which makes SHBG *as i say more below*
    Without something to control the production of SHBG (which gets higher as we get older anyways) It would be counter-productive for TRT. For fertility issues however it is a prime choice (usually cuz the person is younger and the SHBG isnt as high)
    The OP wants more kids, so for now clomid is the better choics. Test-rebound doesnt work as good, from the things ive seen/read/heard. IMO thats why if you want kids and TRT, you should try to do what you can w/o TRT first then if TRT is a must then make sure to use HCG to help keep everything going.. and with a good TRT dose for the individual body the extra test wont inhibit LH and FSH too much





    That is because you doubled your dose. Clomid acts like an estrogen at the liver where SHBG is made, and that is a big cause for a low free test. Too much SHBG will hold on to the test longer so the free test in the blood will get used more resulting in a lower Free test level.
    Thanks Lemenada for the advice. Would you read my last post and still see if you still think the clomid route is the right one?

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