Aging too quickly...

[bass]

Oh, I thought it was ok to discuss legal prescription prices?

BTW, just in case i am right about the rules go ahead and email me!

[zaggahamma]

hmmm! i could be wrong! i don't remember if it was GDevine who posted the rules, i could swear he said it was not allowed!

JPK, thanks bro, its my day off lifting otherwise they would have looked even bigger!

...
since when does gdevine make the rules...lol

sounds like the biceps are almost as big as your head

[bass]

he posted the rules that was instructed to him my admin i believe!

haha "sounds like"! are you saying its getting to my head?!

[Fred40]

You can get AI's very inexpensively even without a script.

I'm taking an AI and it is WAY less than what I'm spending on my test cyp.

I'm not currently on HCG but I am on very low dose Clomid which is even WAY cheaper than the AI.

I'm well under $25 a month.

[zaggahamma]

he posted the rules that was instructed to him my admin i believe!

haha "sounds like"! are you saying its getting to my head?!

r u taking GH now?

You can get AI's very inexpensively even without a script.

I'm taking an AI and it is WAY less than what I'm spending on my test cyp.

I'm not currently on HCG but I am on very low dose Clomid which is even WAY cheaper than the AI.

I'm well under $25 a month.

ewwwwww...tellin!!!!!!

[bass]

[QUOTE=jpkman;5801063]r u taking GH now?

QUOTE]

no too expensive!

[ConArmas]

Thanks for the responses, and the banter! This board is exceeding my expectations!

[flatscat]

We CAN discuss legitimate RX prices on this board. No UG discussion at all.

[bass]

We CAN discuss legitimate RX prices on this board. No UG discussion at all.

thanks for the clarification!

[bass]

okay found who posted the rules, it was flats! i was wrong about discussing prices!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-clarification

[steroid.com 1]

hmmm! i could be wrong! i don't remember if it was GDevine who posted the rules, i could swear he said it was not allowed!

JPK, thanks bro, its my day off lifting otherwise they would have looked even bigger!

Not me bass...

[ConArmas]

So I finally got in to see the GP on 11/15. I ran thru everything with her, had my old labs and Dr. Chrislers recommended blood work...
So she proceeds to tell me that her husband is on TRT and "estrogen blockers" (her words), so she was all for it, but the practice she is in doesn't allow for TRT.
She recommended the AA doc in town (the only one) and said he was great. Problem is, he doesn't take my insurance.
So she did labs and said I could pick them up in a week. I finally got in touch with a competent person in records today who told me that "the doc has been trying to reach you". The office said that they couldn't release my results to me, even though I filled out their release, because the doc needed to see me to discuss.
To be honest, it's kind of freaking me out since I haven't felt good for a long while.
Thankfully, I only have to wait until tomorrow to see her.
...just had to vent...

[bass]

good, one step ahead! i look forward to see your results and what the new doc will do for you. keep us posted!

[zaggahamma]

So I finally got in to see the GP on 11/15. I ran thru everything with her, had my old labs and Dr. Chrislers recommended blood work...
So she proceeds to tell me that her husband is on TRT and "estrogen blockers" (her words), so she was all for it, but the practice she is in doesn't allow for TRT.
She recommended the AA doc in town (the only one) and said he was great. Problem is, he doesn't take my insurance.
So she did labs and said I could pick them up in a week. I finally got in touch with a competent person in records today who told me that "the doc has been trying to reach you". The office said that they couldn't release my results to me, even though I filled out their release, because the doc needed to see me to discuss.
To be honest, it's kind of freaking me out since I haven't felt good for a long while.
Thankfully, I only have to wait until tomorrow to see her.
...just had to vent...

i've heard that before as well....the doctor needing to go over the results/bloodwork before giving the patient a copy

[ConArmas]

Well, I got my results this morning, only to find out that she only ran some random tests, after I gave her Christlers list.

Vit D: 31.8 - [30- 100] (up a little after 4000 iu/day for 2 mos)
Free T4: 1.01 - [0.70 - 1.48]
TSH: 1.73 - [0.35 - 4.94]
Test Free - total: 281 - [348 - 1197]
Free Test - direct: 9.9 - [6.8 - 21.5]

My total T is the lowest it's ever been, 83 pts lower than a year ago...WTF? No wonder I feel worse.
I have an appt with the AA Doc she recommended on 12/6. I will request the missed labs with him to have a good baseline.
Let the games begin!

[zaggahamma]

con
just realized you started this post back in june
wow slow goin i'm sorry bro
this aa doc should hook you up and get you goin..one more week man..
maybe you'll be yellin ho ho ho this Christmas afterall

[ConArmas]

Thanks jpkman.
After getting these latest results, I feel like sitting on the couch in my pj's and watching a chick flick with a big bowl of ice cream...
Seriously, it has been so grinding to wait and wait to get this figured out, I must look like the poster boy for the prozac that the first doc tried to get me to take.

Thanks to all for the knowledge and support that you all share on this board. I am starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

[zaggahamma]

Thanks jpkman.
After getting these latest results, I feel like sitting on the couch in my pj's and watching a chick flick with a big bowl of ice cream...
Seriously, it has been so grinding to wait and wait to get this figured out, I must look like the poster boy for the prozac that the first doc tried to get me to take.

Thanks to all for the knowledge and support that you all share on this board. I am starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.

so great to hear bro

[bass]

i've heard that before as well....the doctor needing to go over the results/bloodwork before giving the patient a copy

thats right JP, my clinic said the same thing, the doc must go through th results with me first before they send me a copy! its a new requirement they said.

[ConArmas]

I feel like a little kid on Christmas eve.
I finally got to see the AA Doc today. The appt was great. He said it was obvious from my labs that I needed to be on T.
We talked about everything, and I asked about AI/HCG. He said that he does his first follow-up lab after the 3rd week (5 days after 3rd shot), and that those are introduced as needed.
He wrote my script for 200mg/week. He also said he was impressed with my having done my homework. He even knew about Dr. Christler.
I gave you guys props for sure!
If that doesn't beat all, the nurse came in after and said, let's give you your first shot today, since you are here, on the house!
I have to admit, my hands were a little shaky, just thinking that I may have finally gotten my life back on track.
Thanks ya'll for the motivation and inspiration to make this a reality! I am indebted to this forum.

[bass]

I feel like a little kid on Christmas eve.
I finally got to see the AA Doc today. The appt was great. He said it was obvious from my labs that I needed to be on T.
We talked about everything, and I asked about AI/HCG. He said that he does his first follow-up lab after the 3rd week (5 days after 3rd shot), and that those are introduced as needed.
He wrote my script for 200mg/week. He also said he was impressed with my having done my homework. He even knew about Dr. Christler.
I gave you guys props for sure!
If that doesn't beat all, the nurse came in after and said, let's give you your first shot today, since you are here, on the house!
I have to admit, my hands were a little shaky, just thinking that I may have finally gotten my life back on track.
Thanks ya'll for the motivation and inspiration to make this a reality! I am indebted to this forum.

i love that feeling. congratulations ConArmas! sounds like you found a good doc! post your labs when you get them. I'm really happy for you.

[zaggahamma]

a willing doc makes for a good doc

as the good book says

congrats con

[yannick35]

I just love reading feedback like this i guess we are all in the same boat here, and getting your life back has no price.

Congate

[steroid.com 1]

I feel like a little kid on Christmas eve.
I finally got to see the AA Doc today. The appt was great. He said it was obvious from my labs that I needed to be on T.
We talked about everything, and I asked about AI/HCG. He said that he does his first follow-up lab after the 3rd week (5 days after 3rd shot), and that those are introduced as needed.
He wrote my script for 200mg/week. He also said he was impressed with my having done my homework. He even knew about Dr. Christler.
I gave you guys props for sure!
If that doesn't beat all, the nurse came in after and said, let's give you your first shot today, since you are here, on the house!
I have to admit, my hands were a little shaky, just thinking that I may have finally gotten my life back on track.
Thanks ya'll for the motivation and inspiration to make this a reality! I am indebted to this forum.

Christ man, you just made my week

PLEASE do us all a huge favor, report weekly on your progress, health, well being, libido, physical shape...

Your Physician is spot on about adding in what is needed down the road. And the fact that the Doc is waiting only 3 weeks before next assessment is PERFECT.

My friend, you are in good care!!!

[ConArmas]

Thanks gdevine, bass, jpkman, & yannick. I could have never done this without your collective wisdom and encouragement.
I will be keeping a written log of everything, including gym time. I will certainly post my progress and labs in the hopes that it adds value
to the collective benenfit that this site has to offer.

Cheers!

[yannick35]

I am really starting my TRT has well been on for 5 weeks now so i am very new to this too, and yes theses guys got some serious wisdom. I also try to update my status weekly and post how i feel and how everything is going, now i gotta get a serious grip on my diet because things are getting out of hand LOL

[ConArmas]

So one of the things I have noticed in my daily log is my BP is at ~ 135/80 as opposed to my normal ~ 110/70.
I realize that it is still ok, but I was wondering if there was a point at which it was indicative to give blood or do something else to regulate it??

Also, got my first morning wood in a loong time!

[bass]

So one of the things I have noticed in my daily log is my BP is at ~ 135/80 as opposed to my normal ~ 110/70.
I realize that it is still ok, but I was wondering if there was a point at which it was indicative to give blood or do something else to regulate it??

Also, got my first morning wood in a loong time!

how many shots you took already? you can give blood any time, its good for you anyway, but usually you need to start giving after 2-3 months into TRT. are you doing lab work anytime soon? simply keep an eye on your hemoglobin, RBC and Hematocrit. drink lots of water and cut down on salt. when i was on var my BP went up to 177/95 at one point, now its 101/65. nice touch on that dancing banana BTW! glad you are noticing the benefits already.

[steroid.com 1]

So one of the things I have noticed in my daily log is my BP is at ~ 135/80 as opposed to my normal ~ 110/70.
I realize that it is still ok, but I was wondering if there was a point at which it was indicative to give blood or do something else to regulate it??

Also, got my first morning wood in a loong time!

Great news on the early morning boner ConArms! Know the feeling well. Not everyday, but pretty close

BP increase; could be tied to increase in your resting metabolic rate that happens (thank God) with exogenous Testosterone and a good thing

[JD250]

For some reason it just strikes me as hilarious that we hang out in a forum where men can congratulate each other on having a morning boner!!

Sounds like you're headed in a good direction ConArms. Happy for ya!

[steroid.com 1]

[QUOTE=JD250;5831591]For some reason it just strikes me as hilarious that we hang out in a forum where men can congratulate each other on having a morning boner!!

Yea...well...when you've been there and done that JD you get it

More than that JD, I have pretty much figured out (almost but not quite) how much pde5-i and alpha I blocker I need to get and hold an erection like I was 18 again 24/7. Talk about congratulating!!!

Aging sucks, that's why many of us are here!

[JD250]

.16 ml of liquid cia every morning does it for me. Well, that and my wife has a great rack.

[ConArmas]

Bass: just one. My second is Tuesday, 12/13. I was just surprised to see my bp up already...

[bass]

Bass: just one. My second is Tuesday, 12/13. I was just surprised to see my bp up already...

probably from excitement!

[ConArmas]

I am 4 days into shot 2 and can't conclusively say I feel much different on the whole.
I was incorrect on my dosage, as I read it incorrectly. I am taking 120/EW.
My gym time seems like it may be going a little better--maybe a little more pump, and feeling a bit stronger.
But then again, I have been eating a hell of alot better than I was and drinking more water too.
It is dang hard to eat right, I tell ya. I have been eating like a 20 year old for so long...
Tracking my food has made it easier and adds to my guilt, if I cheat.
No obvious sides yet. Does my diet need to be nuts in order to see an appreciable fat loss?
I do hungry cardio 5+ days a week.

[zaggahamma]

I am 4 days into shot 2 and can't conclusively say I feel much different on the whole.
I was incorrect on my dosage, as I read it incorrectly. I am taking 120/EW.
My gym time seems like it may be going a little better--maybe a little more pump, and feeling a bit stronger.
But then again, I have been eating a hell of alot better than I was and drinking more water too.
It is dang hard to eat right, I tell ya. I have been eating like a 20 year old for so long...
Tracking my food has made it easier and adds to my guilt, if I cheat.
No obvious sides yet. Does my diet need to be nuts in order to see an appreciable fat loss?
I do hungry cardio 5+ days a week.

imo, if you are 20% or more no, not nuts just reasonable and in caloric deficit ...when you have less fat then ofcourse you need to get more strict

[ConArmas]

From 165 lb triathlete to 210 lb lardass. Man, I have alot of work to do.

[zaggahamma]

From 165 lb triathlete to 210 lb lardass. Man, I have alot of work to do.

thats alright bro...your gonna get it back before independence day...way to go man...we're rooting for you

[JD250]

Many have come back from way more BF% than that, you'll do just fine!

[kelkel]

thats right JP, my clinic said the same thing, the doc must go through th results with me first before they send me a copy! its a new requirement they said.

TOTAL Bullsh#t! Just another way to make you pay for an office visit! It's not your doctors bloodwork, it's yours. Demand it. Here's another thought. Tell the doc that you'll only pay when and if you see positive results.