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[dec11]

5'10'' 205 14% all natural would be pretty big IMHO. Not many can do grow that big and keep under 15% without any "help"... I was looking at your stats Dec11 and If @ 5'9'' you achieved 205 naturally with less than 15% then you have gifted genetics IMO.

na, i dont have gifted genes for it mate, my untrained BW would be around 160lbs. that was a 16yr slog to get to that, i was around the 12% bf mark at that weight. i had an extremely solid base through years of comp plifting, i was 75kg class for years and sub 10% bf, i gave up smoking and soon went up to 90kg class. infact, plifting is the type training i'd recommend to noobs starting off in the iron game, gives a great base to BB off.