My 1st BIG BOY cycle.

[dec11]

1. moving test dosage up too rapidly one cycle to the next
2. 500mg tren eth- if your going to try tren for the first time it should be ace
3. 6 weeks straight of 50mgs dbol ED- excessive risk

no it isnt...

[xelnaga]

no it isnt...

This isn't the type of fact that can be debated. Its personal preference. For me taking dbol at 50mgs for 6 weeks in excessive. I take a long term view of my risk/reward calculations. So even if you have fine blood work at 6 weeks on dbol, that does not make me comfortable with the dosage and time.

[dec11]

This isn't the type of fact that can be debated. Its personal preference. For me taking dbol at 50mgs for 6 weeks in excessive. I take a long term view of my risk/reward calculations. So even if you have fine blood work at 6 weeks on dbol, that does not make me comfortable with the dosage and time.

in what regard? ive taken it as long as 9wks before and have had three blood tests done this year and my organ results where perfect on my last result.
fine if you dont feel comfortable with it, but its wrong to generalise that its excessive based on your assumptions

[xelnaga]

in what regard? ive taken it as long as 9wks before and have had three blood tests done this year and my organ results where perfect on my last result.
fine if you dont feel comfortable with it, but its wrong to generalise that its excessive based on your assumptions

Is your contention that taking a liver toxic substance causes no harm as long as your blood work is fine?

[dec11]

Is your contention that taking a liver toxic substance causes no harm as long as your blood work is fine?

well tell me for how long and at what dose dbol is dangerous at. and yes, tests that indicate something is fine would act as a guideline for me.

not calling you out, just want to know what these facts are based on

[xelnaga]

well tell me for how long and at what dose dbol is dangerous at. and yes, tests that indicate something is fine would act as a guideline for me.

not calling you out, just want to know what these facts are based on

Ok. After you tell me how long and at what dose dbol is safe?

[gixxerboy1]

Ok. After you tell me how long and at what dose dbol is safe?

everyone is different. But usually the 4-6 week is the norm. And 50mg isnt that high

[dec11]

Ok. After you tell me how long and at what dose dbol is safe?

well i said ive done it for 9wks and at 40mg pd and i have no problems at all, thats all i can say. i think the amount of times one would do this per year is the key, the body will settle down again during off periods.

i think the oral and organ toxicity thing is over stated and alot of forum guidelines are unfounded

[xelnaga]

I never suggested they were facts. I critiqued a cycle with the guidelines by which I run my compounds. I will not run a 17aa past 4 weeks. The reason as I stated is that its liver toxic and im only willing to expose my liver at short intervals.