none of these will repair connective tissues. ive tried deca and hgh, some relief while on but problem will come straight back when you discontinue. dont waste your time or money.
rest is the only cure.
'everything louder than everything else'
none of these will repair connective tissues. ive tried deca and hgh, some relief while on but problem will come straight back when you discontinue. dont waste your time or money.
rest is the only cure.
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Well this is why i run 20 weeks instead of 6 or 8, i spoke to people that told me different, ligaments are made of collagen, deca produces collagen, how can it not heal the laxed ligaments? also combined with prolo treatments. I do not think deca is just a patch even Test E has an effect on ligaments. What type of injury did you have, BTW rest will never ever fix a laxed ligament.Originally Posted by dec11
'everything louder than everything else'
man i ran it 16wks with my trt, it doesnt work period. AAS cant repair connective tissues plain and simple. hell, even HGH doesnt either, i tried that for 7mths and still have my ailments.
im telling you now theres no point in trying to convince yourself, it will not work.
rotator cuff injury, both wrists, fingers and thumb ligaments, groin strain, something deep in my left trap, knee ligament trouble, recurring elbow trouble. i saw relief while on but back to square one when i came off
Last edited by dec11; 12-23-2011 at 11:11 PM.
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what is your ailment? maybe its differnet then mine? i do not have a torn rotator cuff or anything similar , i still have weak ligaments cause by too many chiroprators manipulations.
I have all my gear at home so i cannot simply give up now, and from all the positive feedback i have heard from people i need to ge true with this and see for myself.
I will not go on a GH cycle for 6 months i don't have that kind of money but even Ross Hauser who is the prolotherapy guru in the USA preforms GH and Testosterone injections to heal ligaments, so at some point it works.
My new prolotherapist also uses that technic and had great success.
After suffering upper back pain for more then 8 years this summer everything broke loose and the pain was 100 times worst, i had to get weekly scar tissue massage to remove the pain, after 3 weeks on TRT and 200mg of test E the pain is gone.... the ligament laxity is still there but the pain is gone, i can train again. So its hard to beleive that steroids won't do anything to help the body heal up.
Last edited by yannick35; 12-23-2011 at 11:17 PM.
'everything louder than everything else'
go back afew posts, i edited them in.
its something to do with the fact AAS cant cross connect fibres or something to that effect. Bonaparte can explain it better
'everything louder than everything else'
thats bull, test is actually counteractive to connective tissues mate.
go for it if you want but it wont work mate, your hearing alot of broscience claiming its a fix, i used to hear and see it too. i tried it and its not true and quite afew on here have found the same
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I have read this study on the internet and many people said its flawed and has no scientific study to back it up, also this is why deca is used with Test.
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You are on TRT right now, don't you see any relief from your pains while on Test E? i did that is what amazes me. Sorry to read about all your ailements but they are very different then mine. I have been out of the gym for 10 years too and like you said resting a lot during that time.
'everything louder than everything else'
yes and no i dont have any relief from it, i would have relief when i blast a cycle in but that must just be down to water cushioning joints etc.
ive managed to train around them in a kinda acceptable routine, some exercise are right out the window but i can still dead and squat heavy, these are most important to me
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I have stop squatting and deadlifting, i do not use theses exercies anymore, i do leg pressing just fine and hack squats.
You might be right about the water retention, weird because people say that at 200mg you don't experience any, but i did.
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How did you injure yourself, i have re read all of this and its quite amazing, TRT has worked wonders on my wrist, actually making my grip stronger too, i read this was an effect of TRT on a site not sure where but i started laughing out loud when reading this, but when it really happened i was really amazed. Lot of theses ailments might be fixed by prolotherapy, all that is ligament and tendon related for sure. I still have a bit of lower back problems but almost gone 100% now, my upper back is giving me problems mostly due to ligament laxity, and my hip even if its still snaps the pain is gone, this was all due to prolotherapy treatments. TRT made a huge difference in my pains, most of them are almost gone. I guess that it might work for some people and for others not.
I saw studies on the internet were they gave women 50mg per 2 weeks and after a while it imporved there bone growth. I also read that a few people take small dose of deca and make it part of there TRT with great results, like 75mg per week.
After my 20 weeks i will surely look into this and see if i can do something similar.
Last edited by yannick35; 12-24-2011 at 04:20 AM.
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