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    How are you running slin pre workout and not going hypo?
    More confused now..How much slin are you running?

    Pulled from redbarons post
    THE CYCLE

    Weeks 1- (20-30) – HGH – On 5/ off 2
    Weeks 1-5, 11-15, (21-25)
    • 2 – 2.5 IU’s - first thing in the morning on workout days – early afternoon on non-workout days
    Weeks 6-10, 16-20, (26-30)
    • 2 – 2.5 IU’s first thing in the morning
    • 2 – 2.5 IU’s post workout with your insulin (or alternatively before workout if desired)
    All HGH injected subQ into a**omen, obliques, fronts of the thighs, upper triceps

    Weeks 1-5, 11-15, (21-25) – Long R3 IGF -1 – Every day
    60mcg’s intramuscular
    • post work out on workout days
    • first thing in the morning on non workout days

    Weeks 6-10, 16-20, (26-30) – Humalog – Workout days only
    • 8IU’s immediately post workout , intramuscular

    IMPORTANT / CRITICAL - Post Insulin Nutrition
    Immediately after Humalog injection – do the following
    • Injection + 5 minutes – drink shake with 10g glutamine / 10g creatine / 55g dextrose (7 grams per IU of Insulin )
    • Injection + 15 minutes – drink shake with 80g of whey isolate protein in water
    • Injection + 60 – 75 minutes – eat a protein / carb meal with 40-50g of protein , 40-50g of carbs, NO FATS (you may wish to add another whey isolate protein drink with this meal)
    Avoid fats for 2-3 hours for Humalog IM, 3-4 hours for Humalog subQ, 4-5 hours for Humulin-R.
    keep some glucose tablets or other simple carbs on hand (Orange Juice, Full sugar Coke, etc.) for the active window of your insulin . Hypo symptoms can and will hit hard and fast and you will have little time to react. This is the main danger of insulin use. Be ready.
    Last edited by Razor; 12-30-2011 at 11:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    How are you running slin pre workout and not going hypo?
    More confused now..How much slin are you running?
    Most big guys do slin pre workout these days. You are shuttling carbs and nutrients into your muscles pre, intra, and post workout. It is much more effective. I have never gone hypo or even felt slightly hypo. I stay safe with my carb intake. I use a modified version of this protocol taken from mike arnold on another forum. I use 10 iu's 5x a week on every workout.


    "The best single time is pre-workout , although you need to adhere to specific diet protocols.

    Here is a pre-workout insulin protocol, which will kick your ass. Your not going to fnd a pre-workout protocol, which works better. I have tried dozens of different programs in my clients and none of them work as well.

    Of course, keep in mind that there are many different ways to run insulin , but if your limiting it to only at workout times, try the following. 10 lbs in 1-2 weeks is common.

    Lastly, I will assume you are thoroughy familiar with Insulin and know what signs to look for in the event of hypogly***ia. I am not going to type out all the warning signs or what to do in the event of a hypogly***ic attack. However, the following program is very unlikely to result in any type of serious hypogly***ic event, even in those with extreme inuslin sensitivity. I am also unaware of your bodyweight or dietary needs, so I will write a program which should be suitable for 1st time nsulin users between 200-250 lbs.



    30 minutes before workout
    Inject 15 IU Humalog
    60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
    20 grams of Hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).
    4.5 grams Leucine.
    4.5 grams GPLC.
    5 grams Micronized creatine monohydrate.
    2 grams Beta alanine.
    15 grams Glycerol monostearate
    10 grams glutamine.
    3 grams Taurine.
    2 grams vitamin C.
    500 mg Potassium.

    60 minutes later
    60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
    20 grams Hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).
    4.5 grams Leucine.
    5 grams Micronized creatine monohydrate.
    2 grams Beta alanine.
    15 grams Glycerol monostearate.
    10 grams glutamine.
    3 grams Taurine.

    60 minutes later
    60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
    20 grams hydrolyzed protyein (whey, casein, or beef).


    Note: You should consume a regular meal within 3-4 hours of beginning this protocol. Also, I don't recomnmend doing it if it has been 5 or more hours since you heve last eaten, as your blood suagr will be pretty low when you start....so try to get in your last meal within 3 to no more than 4 hours before beginning the protocol.

    Lastly, since you will be drinking your last shake either at the end of your workout or very close to it (unless you workout for many hours), there is no need to eat a whole food meal assoonas the workout is over. You can wait a good hour after consuming your fina shake before eating a post-workout meal, as your body will already be supplied with all the nutrients it needs to grow.

    This program will work very well for you. Give it a shot. 15 IU is a good starting dose of insulin for a pre-wrkout protocol. The amount of carbs and protien provided is more than enough to use up 15 IU of Slin, but if it worries you, somply use 10 IU for your 1st time and then go up to 15 the next time. Your pumps will be through the ****in' roof and you will quickly gain fullness, size and overall bodyweight. Bottom line: You will feel like you are using AAS for your first time all over again and will look much bigger within just 2 weeks. It will work better if you follow this protocol at least 5 times a week. Guys who train only 3 or 4 days a week don't notice quit as good of results because they're only using Slin 3-4 times per week."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexISthrowed View Post
    Most big guys do slin pre workout these days. You are shuttling carbs and nutrients into your muscles pre, intra, and post workout. It is much more effective. I have never gone hypo or even felt slightly hypo. I stay safe with my carb intake. I use a modified version of this protocol taken from mike arnold on another forum. I use 10 iu's 5x a week on every workout.


    "The best single time is pre-workout , although you need to adhere to specific diet protocols.

    Here is a pre-workout insulin protocol, which will kick your ass. Your not going to fnd a pre-workout protocol, which works better. I have tried dozens of different programs in my clients and none of them work as well.

    Of course, keep in mind that there are many different ways to run insulin , but if your limiting it to only at workout times, try the following. 10 lbs in 1-2 weeks is common.

    Lastly, I will assume you are thoroughy familiar with Insulin and know what signs to look for in the event of hypogly***ia. I am not going to type out all the warning signs or what to do in the event of a hypogly***ic attack. However, the following program is very unlikely to result in any type of serious hypogly***ic event, even in those with extreme inuslin sensitivity. I am also unaware of your bodyweight or dietary needs, so I will write a program which should be suitable for 1st time nsulin users between 200-250 lbs.



    30 minutes before workout
    Inject 15 IU Humalog
    60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
    20 grams of Hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).
    4.5 grams Leucine.
    4.5 grams GPLC.
    5 grams Micronized creatine monohydrate.
    2 grams Beta alanine.
    15 grams Glycerol monostearate
    10 grams glutamine.
    3 grams Taurine.
    2 grams vitamin C.
    500 mg Potassium.
    Most if not all of this in a shake?

    60 minutes later Is this after the workout?
    60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
    20 grams Hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).
    4.5 grams Leucine.
    5 grams Micronized creatine monohydrate.
    2 grams Beta alanine.
    15 grams Glycerol monostearate.
    10 grams glutamine.
    3 grams Taurine.
    Shake again? So I have an 90min gym time?

    60 minutes later Again, post workout?
    60 grams Vitargo, Karbolyn (or similar).
    20 grams hydrolyzed protein (whey, casein, or beef).


    Note: You should consume a regular meal within 3-4 hours of beginning this protocol. Also, I don't recomnmend doing it if it has been 5 or more hours since you heve last eaten, as your blood suagr will be pretty low when you start....so try to get in your last meal within 3 to no more than 4 hours before beginning the protocol.

    Lastly, since you will be drinking your last shake either at the end of your workout or very close to it (unless you workout for many hours), there is no need to eat a whole food meal assoonas the workout is over. You can wait a good hour after consuming your fina shake before eating a post-workout meal, as your body will already be supplied with all the nutrients it needs to grow.

    This program will work very well for you. Give it a shot. 15 IU is a good starting dose of insulin for a pre-wrkout protocol. The amount of carbs and protien provided is more than enough to use up 15 IU of Slin, but if it worries you, somply use 10 IU for your 1st time and then go up to 15 the next time. Your pumps will be through the ****in' roof and you will quickly gain fullness, size and overall bodyweight. Bottom line: You will feel like you are using AAS for your first time all over again and will look much bigger within just 2 weeks. It will work better if you follow this protocol at least 5 times a week. Guys who train only 3 or 4 days a week don't notice quit as good of results because they're only using Slin 3-4 times per week."
    Will this prevent me from becoming diabetic with this type of nutritional intake after pinning slin?

    Questions in bold.

    Possible critique for me for 5'10, 195, 12%bf
    Last edited by Razor; 12-30-2011 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
    Questions in bold.

    Possible critique for me for 5'10, 195, 12%bf
    I have modified this protocol quite a bit for my self to where I'm comfortable with it. Here is the exact protocol I use. I use humilin r so the timing will be different than that of log.

    1 hour pre work out:
    Pin 10 iu humilin r
    prepare shake containing
    70g carbs from karbolyn
    10g glutamin
    10g creatine
    10-15g bcaa's

    I then keep this shake near by, but do not consume it until 30 minutes after I pin my humilin

    15mins pre work out:
    I consume 50g whey protein

    I then make two shakes. One containing the same as the first pre workout shake and the other containing the same thing with 50g whey protein. I slowly sip the just carb shake throughout my workout, And I consume the other shake on the ride home from the gym. I then consume a whole food meal about an hour to an hour and a half after my post workout shake consisting of 100g carbs from white rice and 50g protein from some sort of lean meat. I don't believe you have to worry about becoming diabetic from such a small amount of insulin. There are no documented cases of this happening to my knowledge. That being said I would not take it year round because I like to err on the side of caution with insulin use. Using this protocol I have never gotten any signs of hypogly***ia. I also usually have a meal about 2 hours before taking my slin to make sure blood sugar levels are not too low. This is the protocol I have found to work for me. With insulin I would recommend starting with a low dose and a liberal amount of carbs. If you keep fat intake to a minimum during the active window of the insulin your fat gains should be very minimal. I haven't really noticed much of any fat gains from insulin use, but I keep my diet very clean. Everyone is different and you will need to find out what works best for you.

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