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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    When most people Say they do HIIT what they really mean is they are doing intervals...

    One will only be able to truly appreciate HIIT after doing some kind of sprint training agains resistance....


    Anyone who says they do HIIT inside a gym on a treadmill or whatever has never done HIIT... HIIT is horrible, not nice at all... But it will dramatically increase sporting performance...


    HIIT is great for sports men/women.... It is very hard in your body though... After a HIIT session I will feel like I have done a massive leg session for a day or two...
    Have to disagree. On a treadmill I do HIIT. My heartrate regularly gets to OVER 100% during my sessions. I have 2 regular HIIT treadmill programmes:-

    1. Warm up 5 mins then 200m at 2%incl @ 20kmh interspersed with 100m walks at 5.5kmh. 12 reps. Cool down

    2. Warm up 5 mins then 150m at 10% incline @16kmh interspersed with 150m walks at 1% incl 6kmh.

    I've also done resisted HIIT with tires and sleds but that is rarely possible for most people due to lack of space/equipment. I don't believe my treadmill HIIT is any less beneficial.

    101%MHR is HIIT. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Have to disagree. On a treadmill I do HIIT. My heartrate regularly gets to OVER 100% during my sessions. I have 2 regular HIIT treadmill programmes:-

    1. Warm up 5 mins then 200m at 2%incl @ 20kmh interspersed with 100m walks at 5.5kmh. 12 reps. Cool down

    2. Warm up 5 mins then 150m at 10% incline @16kmh interspersed with 150m walks at 1% incl 6kmh.

    I've also done resisted HIIT with tires and sleds but that is rarely possible for most people due to lack of space/equipment. I don't believe my treadmill HIIT is any less beneficial.

    101%MHR is HIIT. Period.
    HIIT for me is short burst of explosiveness where you take the whole body (muscularly and cardiovascularly) to failure repeatedly...

    Anything over 20 seconds I consider interval training... Not HIIT. But that is just my opinions and everyone is entitled to there opinion...


    I just hate it when I see people sayin I do HIIT PWO 4 times a week, 30 seconds sprint / 1 min walk.... That is not HIIT.

    I also don't Like the idea of HIIT training on gym equipment because I don't think it is very safe.


    I think that HIIT and normal interval training are almost becoming the same thing in many peoples minds.

    IMO HIIT should look like this

    10-15 second bursts of 100% sprinting against resistance
    120-180 seconds of complete rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteM View Post
    Have to disagree. On a treadmill I do HIIT. My heartrate regularly gets to OVER 100% during my sessions. I have 2 regular HIIT treadmill programmes:-

    1. Warm up 5 mins then 200m at 2%incl @ 20kmh interspersed with 100m walks at 5.5kmh. 12 reps. Cool down

    2. Warm up 5 mins then 150m at 10% incline @16kmh interspersed with 150m walks at 1% incl 6kmh.

    I've also done resisted HIIT with tires and sleds but that is rarely possible for most people due to lack of space/equipment. I don't believe my treadmill HIIT is any less beneficial.

    101%MHR is HIIT. Period.
    Kind of interesting you mentioned the HR thing. I was doing HIIT regularly about a year ago and wearing a HR monitor and my HR would frequently get to my max and occasionally over my max. I was kind of worried if it was dangerous so I started reading up on it.

    Basically, the 220 - your age formula is a bunch of garbage. Max HR is the absolute maximum times your heart can beat per minute without going into fibrallation. You can't exceed your max HR, it is the absolute maximum your heart is capable of beating, or better yet you can't exceed it and live to tell about it. Your max HR is based on genetics and it doesn't change based on your level of CV conditioning or fitness level. It simply is what it is.

    Chances are none of us have ever achieved our max HR. It would be impossible for most people to push them self hard enough to max out their heart rate. But even if someone did push them self hard enough to reach max, it would be a miserable experience. You would see black spots and/or have tunnel vision, your legs would give out and you would fall to the ground feeling dizzy and disorientated, some people would fall unconscious, others would vomit, you would feel terrible. And even though that sounds miserable, the worst part is that even though your heart would not be in fibrillation, you would feel like it was, like you're having a heart attack, and you would probably want to just go ahead and die. I don't think I care to ever find my max HR.



    Quote Originally Posted by baseline_9 View Post
    HIIT for me is short burst of explosiveness where you take the whole body (muscularly and cardiovascularly) to failure repeatedly...

    Anything over 20 seconds I consider interval training... Not HIIT. But that is just my opinions and everyone is entitled to there opinion...


    I just hate it when I see people sayin I do HIIT PWO 4 times a week, 30 seconds sprint / 1 min walk.... That is not HIIT.

    I also don't Like the idea of HIIT training on gym equipment because I don't think it is very safe.


    I think that HIIT and normal interval training are almost becoming the same thing in many peoples minds.

    IMO HIIT should look like this

    10-15 second bursts of 100% sprinting against resistance
    120-180 seconds of complete rest
    If you go by the true definition of HIIT then you're right on as it requires a short 100% max effort for the work portion. Also, you should go from the rest phase straight to the 100% max effort with no delay which is either impossible or extremely dangerous to do on a treadmill. It's really semantics though because the net result is probably the same in that they both produce a greatly enhanced EPOC. I call what I do HIIT and I guess really it's not, but it is high intensity, and it is interval training, soooo...... You're right though, most of us do "intervals".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    Kind of interesting you mentioned the HR thing. I was doing HIIT regularly about a year ago and wearing a HR monitor and my HR would frequently get to my max and occasionally over my max. I was kind of worried if it was dangerous so I started reading up on it.

    Basically, the 220 - your age formula is a bunch of garbage. Max HR is the absolute maximum times your heart can beat per minute without going into fibrallation. You can't exceed your max HR, it is the absolute maximum your heart is capable of beating, or better yet you can't exceed it and live to tell about it. Your max HR is based on genetics and it doesn't change based on your level of CV conditioning or fitness level. It simply is what it is.

    Chances are none of us have ever achieved our max HR. It would be impossible for most people to push them self hard enough to max out their heart rate. But even if someone did push them self hard enough to reach max, it would be a miserable experience. You would see black spots and/or have tunnel vision, your legs would give out and you would fall to the ground feeling dizzy and disorientated, some people would fall unconscious, others would vomit, you would feel terrible. And even though that sounds miserable, the worst part is that even though your heart would not be in fibrillation, you would feel like it was, like you're having a heart attack, and you would probably want to just go ahead and die. I don't think I care to ever find my max HR.





    If you go by the true definition of HIIT then you're right on as it requires a short 100% max effort for the work portion. Also, you should go from the rest phase straight to the 100% max effort with no delay which is either impossible or extremely dangerous to do on a treadmill. It's really semantics though because the net result is probably the same in that they both produce a greatly enhanced EPOC. I call what I do HIIT and I guess really it's not, but it is high intensity, and it is interval training, soooo...... You're right though, most of us do "intervals".


    Bump for some more routines.
    Great point in bold, something I missed out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Hartman View Post
    Kind of interesting you mentioned the HR thing. I was doing HIIT regularly about a year ago and wearing a HR monitor and my HR would frequently get to my max and occasionally over my max. I was kind of worried if it was dangerous so I started reading up on it.

    Basically, the 220 - your age formula is a bunch of garbage. Max HR is the absolute maximum times your heart can beat per minute without going into fibrallation. You can't exceed your max HR, it is the absolute maximum your heart is capable of beating, or better yet you can't exceed it and live to tell about it. Your max HR is based on genetics and it doesn't change based on your level of CV conditioning or fitness level. It simply is what it is.

    Chances are none of us have ever achieved our max HR. It would be impossible for most people to push them self hard enough to max out their heart rate. But even if someone did push them self hard enough to reach max, it would be a miserable experience. You would see black spots and/or have tunnel vision, your legs would give out and you would fall to the ground feeling dizzy and disorientated, some people would fall unconscious, others would vomit, you would feel terrible. And even though that sounds miserable, the worst part is that even though your heart would not be in fibrillation, you would feel like it was, like you're having a heart attack, and you would probably want to just go ahead and die. I don't think I care to ever find my max HR.





    If you go by the true definition of HIIT then you're right on as it requires a short 100% max effort for the work portion. Also, you should go from the rest phase straight to the 100% max effort with no delay which is either impossible or extremely dangerous to do on a treadmill. It's really semantics though because the net result is probably the same in that they both produce a greatly enhanced EPOC. I call what I do HIIT and I guess really it's not, but it is high intensity, and it is interval training, soooo...... You're right though, most of us do "intervals".


    Bump for some more routines.

    so true about the HR. i was wearing a HR monitor when i was triathlon training and went over the supposedly max HR numerous times.

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