Guy gets shot at carls jr

[Gaspari1255]

Im interested on hearing what Bronzer has to say about this. He made a pretty insightful post on police and levels of force. He's educated in this area from the law enfor***ent perspective. Based on his post the police are justified in using one level of force above that being displayed twords them. That would make this justified.
In this case it seems to me either the cop panicked (which he shouldnt do-its his job not too) or he is way to gung ho and trigger happy.
I will say this - to wield a weapon (any weapon) in a threatening manner twords a cop is risking being shot. What disturbs me is if it was a citizen with a carry permit that did the same as that cop- he would fry for sure. This cop may have no repercussions at all, he may get suspended , may even lose his job - you or I would end up in prison. Police are not above the laws they enforce. The should be judged by the same standards. There actions should be judged as anyone elses would , and their word should not be taken as more honest or truthful than anyone elses.

You have to keep in mind that the goal of policing is to "Adequately represent the law and community in which it polices and must serve for protection of life and the prevention of crime and disorder." It is a police officers DUTY to stop crime and take action. It is not your duty, or any other citizens, duty to stop a man acting irrationally with a crowbar. If a man is coming at you with a crowbar from a distance or looking at you it a defensive way with a crowbar, you can easily "run" away or leave the situation. Police officers cannot run away or leave the situation. That's just something to think about. If I was a normal citizen, with a concealed and carry permit, and a man came at me with a crowbar, he'd probably get a round or two in him. I'm just trying to show you guys how this works in terms of the US Justice System.

[jimmyinkedup]

You have to keep in mind that the goal of policing is to "Adequately represent the law and community in which it polices and must serve for protection of life and the prevention of crime and disorder." It is a police officers DUTY to stop crime and take action. It is not your duty, or any other citizens, duty to stop a man acting irrationally with a crowbar. If a man is coming at you with a crowbar from a distance or looking at you it a defensive way with a crowbar, you can easily "run" away or leave the situation. Police officers cannot run away or leave the situation. That's just something to think about. If I was a normal citizen, with a concealed and carry permit, and a man came at me with a crowbar, he'd probably get a round or two in him. I'm just trying to show you guys how this works in terms of the US Justice System.

A couple more insightful posts B man.
The bold above is really my main point. Thats exactly what the officer should have done (which we agree on). My main problem is that if you as a normal citizen unloded 10 rounds in that guy - the very prosecutor the police work hand in hand with would work his ass off to see you in prison- for a very long time. This officer may get reprimanded , may get suspended or worse case may lose his job - for the same exact thing. How is that justice?
His obligation to serve and protect doesnt shield him (or shouldnt) from equal justice for his actions.

[Gaspari1255]

A couple more insightful posts B man.
The bold above is really my main point. Thats exactly what the officer should have done (which we agree on). My main problem is that if you as a normal citizen unloded 10 rounds in that guy - the very prosecutor the police work hand in hand with would work his ass off to see you in prison- for a very long time. This officer may get reprimanded , may get suspended or worse case may lose his job - for the same exact thing. How is that justice?
His obligation to serve and protect doesnt shield him (or shouldnt) from equal justice for his actions.

This officer is going to be guilty in the courtroom for his actions. We really have no idea on what is going to happen to him. The point I was trying to make is that he HAS to do something in that situation where as we (normal civilians) do NOT have to take action. I'm gonna follow this up, it's gonna be really interesting to hear the verdict.

[BengalWoman]

This officer is going to be guilty in the courtroom for his actions. We really have no idea on what is going to happen to him. The point I was trying to make is that he HAS to do something in that situation where as we (normal civilians) do NOT have to take action. I'm gonna follow this up, it's gonna be really interesting to hear the verdict.

Could be 25 to life, or worse yet they make him eat at Carl's Jr.!

[Honkey_Kong]

Could be 25 to life, or worse yet they make him eat at Carl's Jr.!

As long as they don't make him eat the fried zucchini. That shit is lethal.

[BengalWoman]

As long as they don't make him eat the fried zucchini. That shit is lethal.

If you do the crime, you got to eat the slime!