Let's talk about your nuts.

[ScotchGuard02]

You cycle, your nuts shrink, you PCT, they come back. I guess I don't worry about it that much.

[Thunderforge]

You cycle, your nuts shrink, you PCT, they come back. I guess I don't worry about it that much.

I guess I'm curious because I'm just now running my first cycle and don't already have the experience to draw on. Mt experience so far has been very positive but at 4 weeks into it I haven't seen any atrophy yet. Wondering if that's a sign my gear may be under dosed or if I'm just being impatient. I have no real reference. Not that I'm exactly looking forward to it but it would be an undeniable sign that it's working. In truth though, I can see the results in the mirror and in the gym now so I'm not too concerned. Just that noobish impatience, stepping into an arena you have not personally experienced yet, trying to pick the brains of the guys that have already been there. =)

[Blergs]

I guess I'm curious because I'm just now running my first cycle and don't already have the experience to draw on. Mt experience so far has been very positive but at 4 weeks into it I haven't seen any atrophy yet. Wondering if that's a sign my gear may be under dosed or if I'm just being impatient. I have no real reference. Not that I'm exactly looking forward to it but it would be an undeniable sign that it's working. In truth though, I can see the results in the mirror and in the gym now so I'm not too concerned. Just that noobish impatience, stepping into an arena you have not personally experienced yet, trying to pick the brains of the guys that have already been there. =)

there are ALOT of factors to consider though,
some it may take weeks some it may take months on cycle to notice, some may not even notice a thing down there with there cycle, others may notice it early on.
so no it dont mean your gear is bunk.
i can assure you if you stay on for a year you should notice SOMEKIND of shrinkag, but i DO NOT rec staying on cycle that long of course.

Good luck man! its refreshing so see someone bothering to do their home work BEFORE they run into issues and start asking.

[ghettoboyd]

I guess I'm curious because I'm just now running my first cycle and don't already have the experience to draw on. Mt experience so far has been very positive but at 4 weeks into it I haven't seen any atrophy yet. Wondering if that's a sign my gear may be under dosed or if I'm just being impatient. I have no real reference. Not that I'm exactly looking forward to it but it would be an undeniable sign that it's working. In truth though, I can see the results in the mirror and in the gym now so I'm not too concerned. Just that noobish impatience, stepping into an arena you have not personally experienced yet, trying to pick the brains of the guys that have already been there. =)

everyone goes through this there first cycle cus you dont really know what to look for untill you have experianced it...i remember thinking my gear was bunk cus i expected too much from it but in ther end the scale and the mirror dosent lie...for the record my nuts dont shrink even on test and tren, my hair dosent fall out...i do get unbelievebly horny so thats how i know its real the first few weeks, then the results start to show....

[Blergs]

You cycle, your nuts shrink, you PCT, they come back. I guess I don't worry about it that much.

agreed.
sure you may take longer to recover but for the normal cycle its really not a must, but would help. year long cycles or using prog based steroids that tend to shut you down harder i would rec HCG the last 5 or so weeks of cycle leading upto but NOT into PCT.
I persoanlly dont use it and i go from cycle to HRT, sure they shrunk, but thats ok i dont care, less sperm, more control and less chance, its what I preferr. if i feel like it one day ill run small cycles of HCG to bring them back. but really to em it dosent matter, make sno diff to me.