Quote Originally Posted by Razr. View Post
Fcking cant get anything legit anymore even serono dammit
lol, you frustrated buddy? I agree though, way to much fake shit around these days...fuking theives!!!

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thx for all your input guys

-st hartman yes i knw his tsh would be high if thyroid was supreessed .the question is doesnt gh suppress ur thyroid from what i have read?
-soulstealer yes he says he has gained some muscle
-batman hes 36 210lbs bf prob low to mid 20s
-hazard you find those levels low from 3 ius?his starting level was low 200s and hes alsmot double the high reference zone


srry guys on a side note i think the main prob and i forgot to mention in my origianl post is that when he started he was mid to high 20s bf % and as ive told him its hrd to notice fat loss when your starting so high.its prob more when u get to around say 15% and started gh than you will notice it alot more cause ur defintion will start to show.the way he is right now he just has too much fat still.

but my main question is do you think running t4 is needed here or will help since his thyroid doesnt really look suppreessed ?
So TSH is not supressed and T3 and T4 numbers look to be about mid range so I see no need to supplement with T4. That being said, he could throw in 100mcg T4 to help shed some of the fat along side the GH.