Anavar or dnp?

[AverageFrost]

can someone aware me on the potential fat loss obtained from an anavar cycle (1month) or a dnp cycle(10 days)

which would lose more fat and does dnp strip any muscle?
i'm looking for something very effective for fat loss so on my cut i can quickly reach single digit body fat percentage figures
also which is the cheaper alternative out of those two?

[gonzo6183]

You need to diet and train properly, DNP is VERY dangerous with endless side effects (including death) and Var (just like winny and Mast) does not just burn fat like so many people believe these compounds do. Its how you train and eat

[slfmade]

[AverageFrost]

yeah i had a diet whilst i was cutting however i realised during the cut i was losing muscle even though my diet was spot on with around (fat:76g,protein:140g,carbs:190) which is why im looking at these alternatives where you retain muscle during a cut. What do you mean Var doesn't burn fat? isn't that it's main purpose?

[slfmade]

yeah i had a diet whilst i was cutting however i realised during the cut i was losing muscle even though my diet was spot on with around (fat:76g,protein:140g,carbs:190) which is why im looking at these alternatives where you retain muscle during a cut. What do you mean Var doesn't burn fat? isn't that it's main purpose?

I don't know your stats, but you've got a 28/38/34 pro/carb/fat split- That's a horrible macros split. The reason you're losing muscle is because your diet sucks. Sorry, but it's the truth.

[gonzo6183]

NO... Burning fat is NOT the main purpose of any steroid

Why dont you list the following
Age:
Height:
Weight:
Bodyfat:
Goals:
Training exp:
Cycle hist:
Diet:

Listing all this information will get you a lot more help

[AverageFrost]

Age: 19, 20 in june
Height: 5'11
Weight: 83kgs currently
Bodyfat: 15-16% currently
Goals: 85kg 8-9%
Training exp: 1years 3 months, been learnign since day 1 and have had lifting friends help me learn, still learning
Cycle hist: clenbuterol
Diet : Based on IIFYM

[slfmade]

Well, I don't know what IIFYM is, but I can guarantee you I'll never be doing it. You need to change your diet up plain and simple. Most importantly, unless you wanta fvck yourself up for life....you're too young to do steroids. Read this and see if you still wanta do it.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T2pvwhEgfVU

[hankdiesel]

I don't know your stats, but you've got a 28/38/34 pro/carb/fat split- That's a horrible macros split. The reason you're losing muscle is because your diet sucks. Sorry, but it's the truth.

IMO it's not that bad of a split it's just that it is not nearly enough food. The protein and carbs should be way higher bringing the overall calories up some.

[denverpride]

Well, I don't know what IIFYM is, but I can guarantee you I'll never be doing it.

That was funny

[slfmade]

IMO it's not that bad of a split it's just that it is not nearly enough food. The protein and carbs should be way higher bringing the overall calories up some.

Well, I both agree and respectfully disagree with your statement. Wanting to cut with 72% of your calories coming from carbs and fat, especially since 1/2 of that 72% is coming from fat is just ridiculous IMO), but if he were to raise his protein and carbs as you suggested, that would in fact reduce his percentage of fat which could be okay, but I would have to see the numbers to agree 100%.

[AverageFrost]

IMO it's not that bad of a split it's just that it is not nearly enough food. The protein and carbs should be way higher bringing the overall calories up some.

what protein/carb intake should i have had?

[ironmike22]

I've taken Anavar 50mg BD and love it, looking to buy it as we speak

[gonzo6183]

I've taken Anavar 50mg BD and love it, looking to buy it as we speak

That doesnt help the guy at all, at 19, 5'11, 83kg and 16% (likely more) bf he should NOT be considering steroids at all. A good lifting program with steady cardio would benifit him to more transform by adding muscle and slowly dropping fat. Of course as the guys pointed out your diet is going to be the main issue here, you should post up exactly what you eat and when, this will give everyone a better idea

[BBrian]

There are plenty of DNP logs on this site. I would starve myself to lose weight before I ever introduced that poison into my system.

[ghettoboyd]

I've taken Anavar 50mg BD and love it, looking to buy it as we speak

stellar post bro thats 2 posts 2 rules broken...awsome!!!...stop fishing please your opening yourself up to scammers....

[hankdiesel]

what protein/carb intake should i have had?

Exact number aren't going to matter that much. You can keep the fat where it is and eat at least 1-1.5 grams of protein per lb of bw. Definitely oush the carbs up some too. Oatmeal, yams, brown rice, I assume you know what to eat......just eat more of it.

[rawpower]

dude stay away from dnp

[AverageFrost]

dude stay away from dnp

you done it before?