Songdog, I had a much higher bf prior...I used to be 186lbs not that long ago. I'm getting down to like the last 15-20lbs and its hard to cut it. I was hoping to build some lean mass to increase my natural calorie burning to give myself an extra little help on the diet front, but after reading the suggestions here im thinking maybe i should go the cutting route first with some sort of test/win/clen/tren/ and maybe even anavar stack and then once I have a better-lower bf-base I can worry about AAS and all of that.