Dont understand why you guys always argue with under 25year olds cycling

[kolaking]

You guys are forgetting what excersice is all about; creating a physical look of optimal health with an overall mental feeling of well being, regardless of what you see in the rags with pics of guys with 1 in 10,000 genetics.

"Just as there are valid principles to guide you succesfully on your journey toward the aquisition of larger muscles, there is also a valid method, or theory, to guide one's thinking toward the aquisition of valid human knowledge. And it only stands to reason that a bodybuilder should want to know the ideas (or principles) directing his training efforts are true ideas. And how will he ever come to distinguish true ideas from false ideas until or unless he learns something about the nature of ideas, which requires knowledge of the identity of the human mind. To settle for anything less than certainty about the truth of the ideas guiding you in the pursuit of your goals would be to leave your life literally to chance" Mike Mentzer.

You should not be thinking in terms of "who's right?" but rather "whats true?" Sure you can go out there and start cycling crazy stacks or non-stop and try to get yourself as big as you think you want to be by the time your 22, thats your decision to make, but I promise there will be unfortunate cosequences to pay for it for the rest of what could be a short life. I know that you young guys, 90% of you, won't listen to reason because we tell you to take your time and ya'll want it NOW! But hopefully the 10 % of you will take the advise of the people who have already made the mistakes and people who have done it right and follow. Your priorities will change every so many years as you get older and experience things, don't do something that you will regret just a few years after you did it! YOU YOUNG GUYS HAVE PLENTY OF TIME!

[ghettoboyd]

You guys are forgetting what excersice is all about; creating a physical look of optimal health with an overall mental feeling of well being, regardless of what you see in the rags with pics of guys with 1 in 10,000 genetics.

"Just as there are valid principles to guide you succesfully on your journey toward the aquisition of larger muscles, there is also a valid method, or theory, to guide one's thinking toward the aquisition of valid human knowledge. And it only stands to reason that a bodybuilder should want to know the ideas (or principles) directing his training efforts are true ideas. And how will he ever come to distinguish true ideas from false ideas until or unless he learns something about the nature of ideas, which requires knowledge of the identity of the human mind. To settle for anything less than certainty about the truth of the ideas guiding you in the pursuit of your goals would be to leave your life literally to chance" Mike Mentzer.

You should not be thinking in terms of "who's right?" but rather "whats true?" Sure you can go out there and start cycling crazy stacks or non-stop and try to get yourself as big as you think you want to be by the time your 22, thats your decision to make, but I promise there will be unfortunate cosequences to pay for it for the rest of what could be a short life. I know that you young guys, 90% of you, won't listen to reason because we tell you to take your time and ya'll want it NOW! But hopefully the 10 % of you will take the advise of the people who have already made the mistakes and people who have done it right and follow. Your priorities will change every so many years as you get older and experience things, don't do something that you will regret just a few years after you did it! YOU YOUNG GUYS HAVE PLENTY OF TIME!

what do we expect from them after all they have grown up with instant potatoes,instant pudding, instant oatmeal fast food ect and everything is handed to them my mom and dad so why in the hell do they need to work for anything when aas is obviously instant muscles right?...op nobodys stopping you from doing whatever you want but no one here with condone it eather so if you are looking for a "high five" for making a poor disicion there are other boards with uninformed kids like yourself that will tell you what you want to hear so go find them if you arnt looking for the truth...