Pharm Grade Stack Q's (thread moved from new members section)

[iAmNu]

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Hello all,

I am new to the site, hence the user name. I am a guy who has never touched any supps beyond preworkouts/protein . Just ordered a stack which appears to be pharm grade. (Haven't received it yet, still waiting). Anyway, I have seen on the forum tips about "If bought domestically, then gear is fake" that's why I'm assuming the stack is pharm grade, which is fine for me since I'm completely new,
Components
-Dbol
-Drol
-Deca
-Winny

My question is, should I use them all stacked or pair them up or what. Thanks for any help.

[EDIT] I have heard from some that what I have in this stack is not conducive to any sort of proper cycle, however, being that the stuff is already on it's way, could someone let me know how I might utilize what I have properly? Even if these supps aren't a proper cycle, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Still reading stickies on my own, but being that a lot of the info on cycle basics entail a lot of gear that I don't have, I'm still a bit confused

[Capebuffalo]

First what are your stats? Second send that "stack" back where it came from. You do not have enough knowledge or research to even begin something like that. Plus there are two major components missing from that "stack". Not close to a first cycle. Do you know what they are?

[spywizard]

yea.. tell us about yourself..

wgt
ht
age

training experience..

[iAmNu]

yea.. tell us about yourself..

wgt
ht
age

training experience..

Ht: 5'4
weight 142
bf about 12%
age 22
training 2 years
4-5 days a week resistance training / lifting. Usually full body workouts 2 of those days.

Hard to train legs due to slight handicap (CP)
that's why i got the sups to train legs to help my walking ability because as it stands can generally only leg raise my body weight. Want to get strong to lock my kness to walk with upright gate, currently have a cane

[iAmNu]

First what are your stats? Second send that "stack" back where it came from. You do not have enough knowledge or research to even begin something like that. Plus there are two major components missing from that "stack". Not close to a first cycle. Do you know what they are?

Do I know what the missing components are? No I do not. Also, the point is that I kind of don't want it to be a true cycle in the sense that I do not want to get hardcore into anabolics. I only wanted to use the supps to help with the goals for my legs (described in other post) Primarily got those supps for the winny (fat burn)

[gixxerboy1]

Do I know what the missing components are? No I do not. Also, the point is that I kind of don't want it to be a true cycle in the sense that I do not want to get hardcore into anabolics. I only wanted to use the supps to help with the goals for my legs (described in other post) Primarily got those supps for the winny (fat burn)

you have to learn how all these drugs effect your body. You may be looking at the pro's and say this will help with this or that. But they have other effects on you also. like shutting down your natural hormonal system. Which you are not understanding.

[iAmNu]

Well, I am not in a position to buy other supps to augment the effects of what I have listed there, that being the case, should I just take the Winny and just accept the others as a loss?

[Capebuffalo]

Do I know what the missing components are? No I do not. Also, the point is that I kind of don't want it to be a true cycle in the sense that I do not want to get hardcore into anabolics. I only wanted to use the supps to help with the goals for my legs (described in other post) Primarily got those supps for the winny (fat burn)

If you are looking to lose fat go to the nutrition section and get help there. As for the strengthening of your legs, would physical therapy be an option? It seems you are looking at these compounds as magic. You want to lose fat eat better excercise more don't buy winny. Plus your only 22. You haven't fully developed yet. This will do you more harm than good. This isn't the way.

[gixxerboy1]

Well, I am not in a position to buy other supps to augment the effects of what I have listed there, that being the case, should I just take the Winny and just accept the others as a loss?

just save it. It doesnt go bad. Or sell some of it to friends or something and get the correct things you need.

[iAmNu]

Oh ok, well, being that it's already been shipped I can't cancel the order. Also I won't say where I got these sups form because I know it is against the rules of the forum, only that the source had been partnered with a major department store (online) and this dept. store is MAJOR. I'm talking common place mainstream household name type of chain. That's why I was under the impression that these sups were week enough just to be taken as stand-alone supps without having to treat in the way you would a true cycle. I was under the impression the these were "light" in a sense otherwise how would the source be allowed to partner with the dept store? Do you think I could keep the supps and consult my physician and see if he has a way that I could use these correctly?

[iAmNu]

If you are looking to lose fat go to the nutrition section and get help there. As for the strengthening of your legs, would physical therapy be an option? It seems you are looking at these compounds as magic. You want to lose fat eat better excercise more don't buy winny. Plus your only 22. You haven't fully developed yet. This will do you more harm than good. This isn't the way.

I can never stay on a PT program because my HMO always graduates me or stops seeing me because they deem my progress good enough to stop seeing me

[gixxerboy1]

Oh ok, well, being that it's already been shipped I can't cancel the order. Also I won't say where I got these sups form because I know it is against the rules of the forum, only that the source had been partnered with a major department store (online) and this dept. store is MAJOR. I'm talking common place mainstream household name type of chain. That's why I was under the impression that these sups were week enough just to be taken as stand-alone supps without having to treat in the way you would a true cycle. I was under the impression the these were "light" in a sense otherwise how would the source be allowed to partner with the dept store? Do you think I could keep the supps and consult my physician and see if he has a way that I could use these correctly?

well im not sure what you have now. If you bought them through a legit store you may not actually have steroids. you may have legal supplements which are named close to steroid names. They do that to make people like yourself think they are getting the real deal

[Capebuffalo]

Gnc?

[iAmNu]

Well, I should rephrase. They are not exactly "partnered" with the dept. store, they are an online merchant there. But they did use the names like Dbol etc to describe them. Here is what I am wondering...I want to bring in the supps to my doctor to see what he sends, possibly have it run some tests to find out exactly what I am dealing with. Given his approval or disapproval I will do what he says. Now, the problem is... for him to really figure out the compounds he would have to (obviously) open the package, thus rendering return impossible, so do you think I should go ahead, get Dr. feedback and possibly be out a bunch of cash if he says "no" or should I just return it straight away

[iAmNu]

no.

[other post: Well, I should rephrase. They are not exactly "partnered" with the dept. store, they are an online merchant there.]

btw, thought we cannot use names for stores of any sort

[Capebuffalo]

I can never stay on a PT program because my HMO always graduates me or stops seeing me because they deem my progress good enough to stop seeing me

Health care at its finest. We will help and get you half way to better then pull the plug.

[iAmNu]

Health care at its finest. We will help and get you half way to better then pull the plug.

Thank you my friend you probably won't believe me if I told you this, but hearing you say that means a lot to me. It made me slightly emotional to hear someone state what I've been thinking. Honestly would have never bought the supps or even be on the forum if I would have just been kept on my program.

[gixxerboy1]

Well, I should rephrase. They are not exactly "partnered" with the dept. store, they are an online merchant there. But they did use the names like Dbol etc to describe them. Here is what I am wondering...I want to bring in the supps to my doctor to see what he sends, possibly have it run some tests to find out exactly what I am dealing with. Given his approval or disapproval I will do what he says. Now, the problem is... for him to really figure out the compounds he would have to (obviously) open the package, thus rendering return impossible, so do you think I should go ahead, get Dr. feedback and possibly be out a bunch of cash if he says "no" or should I just return it straight away

Very bad idea. First of your dr cant tell anything as far as them being real or fake by looking at them. Second if they are real you want to show your Doctor illegal drugs and ask them what they think about you taking them. #rd it will be in your medical history and may cause you health insurance issues in the future.

I would wait to you get the stuff and post some pictures on here. Also is everything you ordered a pill or is some injectable?

[iAmNu]

pill. Probably will just send back in light of what you said

[gixxerboy1]

pill. Probably will just send back in light of what you said

well deca doesnt come in a pill. So they are supplements. Not saying they wont do anything but they arent steroids.

[iAmNu]

well deca doesnt come in a pill. So they are supplements. Not saying they wont do anything but they arent steroids.

If they aren't steroids, then would it be ok to consult the physician or still no

[gixxerboy1]

If they aren't steroids, then would it be ok to consult the physician or still no

you wont get in any trouble but i doubt he is going to know much about supplements.

[iAmNu]

you wont get in any trouble but i doubt he is going to know much about supplements.

na___

[gixxerboy1]

you have to be here longer and have more post to be able to pm.

[iAmNu]

Na___

[gixxerboy1]

just talk here. That is what the board is for.

[iAmNu]

just talk here. That is what the board is for.

but I can't show you on here, against the rules
if e mail , could eval what I have

[gixxerboy1]

just post a picture of it. its not against the rules.

sorry but im not giving out my email

[stpete]

No one will email you. Pics are your best bet.

[iAmNu]

Just tried to imbed and it erased my changes

[iAmNu]

also just searched and I have seen on another forum it is described as a 'snake oil company'

[Capebuffalo]

Post the name you can always go back and edit it. I don't think it's a lab or a ugl affiliated with a department store

[iAmNu]

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[iAmNu]

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[iAmNu]

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[Capebuffalo]

If they are legal steroids they are not steroids. You got supps coming in the mail. I've seen the ad in magazines.

[iAmNu]

If they are legal steroids they are not steroids. You got supps coming in the mail. I've seen the ad in magazines.

Oh, ok, thanks. BTW do you know why I can't get the embed pics to work?

do you do [img][/img]?

[swm1972]

I have seen on the forum tips about "If bought domestically, then gear is fake"

That is the biggest bunch of crap ever posted. The person who told you this doesn't have a clue of what they are talking about.

Edit. After reading this whole thread I realized you fell for a scam. You aren't going to buy real steroids from a commercial entity unless you have a prescription. I thought you meant domestic underground.

[swm1972]

well im not sure what you have now. If you bought them through a legit store you may not actually have steroids. you may have legal supplements which are named close to steroid names. They do that to make people like yourself think they are getting the real deal

X 2

Not to mention you are a far way off from being ready to cycle steroids. 145lbs? You can't honestly think you are ready for this.

[iAmNu]

X 2

Not to mention you are a far way off from being ready to cycle steroids. 145lbs? You can't honestly think you are ready for this.

After looking into it further, what people have been saying seems to be true. What I got are those legal supps not steroids, do you think these work at all? I've seen mixed reviews. Some people say they work but others say no