What happend to you on your first serious cycle?

[nikepump8844]

NotConvincedYet, did the sides you mentioned happen in tandem with loss of muscle and/or fat gain post-cycle? Would be interested to know why you felt Nolva/clom. was insufficient for you on this cycle. Thanks

[NotConvincedYet]

NotConvincedYet, did the sides you mentioned happen in tandem with loss of muscle and/or fat gain post-cycle? Would be interested to know why you felt Nolva/clom. was insufficient for you on this cycle. Thanks

I gained 15lbs on cycle, I have maintained 8-9 lbs.

I dont think nolva and clomid were insufficient, I think it I could have done better by maintaining testicular function (HCG) and limit estrogenic side effects (I am assuming may have contributed to acne) whilst on cycle. Also individual differences contribute to how well one recovers I am assuming. Some people seem to get no sides, others get gyno... for me it was acne.

I think loss of weight is innevitable post cycle, but I think it can be limited by proper on cycle, and post cycle therapy (hence why I say HCG and AI is a no brainer for me next time).

Yes I have gained belly fat, and lost some muscle. I am not too worried though because I know how to eat and train this away

It certainly is not a wonder drug that's for sure. I think newbies under estimate the risks involved.