Just started 3 months of Test Cypionate (G star Labs) and HGH (Omnitrope)

[jgnyc]

Yes TRT is Test repla***ent therapy. Pct is Post cycle therapy.

It's great you are having a doctor work with you on your regimen. As far dosing goes, you could go ahead and try out 250mg/week however in my personal experience I've done test only cycles with 300mg/week and then 500mg/week and the difference is very noticeable, 500mg/week yielded much greater adipose tissue metabolism, state of well being, and strength/muscle hypertrophy. To each his own though and I would implore you to experiment for yourself, as everyone's different.

As far as hCG dosing goes, did you mean 200 IU, and not 20 IU? Because 20 IU is a very low dose, even multiple times per week, in terms of stimulating your FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (Luteinizing hormone). 200 IU multiple times per week (every 2-4 days) would be more appropriate in my experience.

Your diet could use some work. Can you count up the calories in each meal? Then find a total at the end of your day? This will help with tailoring it to fit your body weight. Also, there's some really great informational threads in the diet section that will guide you in choosing a balance of macronutrients (fats vs proteins vs carbs), and really your goals are to get cut up, so diet is very important.

Anastrozole, I would guess you're typical dose would be somewhere on the low end due to your low dose of Test and what appears to be low dose of hCG, I would guess no more than 1mg/week of the stuff, unless you are prone to aromatase... then maybe .5mg 2-3x a week or 0.25mg divided respectfully times a week... you'd have to really see how you feel with this one, because killing too much estrogen will be harmful just like too much, and you'll feel crappy as well as suffer in the gains department.

Thank you for the response. It is 200 iu's and it's twice weekly on the hCG. I will experiment with the test and see how it goes, I'm thinking I'll continue at the dose I'm taking now and then at the end of the first month I'll up it to .75 twice a week for a total of 1.5 cc's.

I believe I can count up the calories in some meals accurately but dont' think it would be too accurate on all meals. In my journey through this weight loss though, I honestly never once counted calories. I focused on a diet high in protein and low in fat and carbs. I've also focused on getting my carbs from fruits and vegetables primarily rather than starches. Every now and then I'll have some oatmeal in the morning as well. I'll take a look at the diet threads, thanks for the heads up. What would you recommend/advise to better my diet? Also, do you see any negative in my eating protein bars?

[oscarjones]

Thank you for the response. It is 200 iu's and it's twice weekly on the hCG. I will experiment with the test and see how it goes, I'm thinking I'll continue at the dose I'm taking now and then at the end of the first month I'll up it to .75 twice a week for a total of 1.5 cc's.

I believe I can count up the calories in some meals accurately but dont' think it would be too accurate on all meals. In my journey through this weight loss though, I honestly never once counted calories. I focused on a diet high in protein and low in fat and carbs. I've also focused on getting my carbs from fruits and vegetables primarily rather than starches. Every now and then I'll have some oatmeal in the morning as well. I'll take a look at the diet threads, thanks for the heads up. What would you recommend/advise to better my diet? Also, do you see any negative in my eating protein bars?

Sounds good to me.

Yeah proteins bars are crap. I'd rather see you eat beef jerky or something, haha. In all honesty you're diet is pretty low in carbs, which is one approach to cutting bodyfat, however if you do this I'd like to see you add some essential fatty acids in with your veggies...

For example: Rough estimate of macros and suggestions.

8am - 5 eggs scrambled Solid meal, I would add in some veggies, make an omelet or something! Macros (30g pro, 0g carb, 25g fat)

10am - protein shake with a banana in it Assuming you're having 1 scoop whey, you could up this to 2 scoops for some more proteins and calories, and maybe 1tbs Extra virgin olive oil for some healthy fats! Believe it or not you need some healthy essential fatty acids in your diet even when trying to diet and lose weight. Macros would be (50g pro, 25g carb, 15g fat?)

12-1pm - lunch always consists of a protein (ground turkey, grilled chicken, lean red meat) along with either steamed broccoli or steamed carrots/broccoli/coliflower mix Not bad, how much protein here? Lets say 8 oz? Steamed veggies are excellent. Add in some essential fatty acids here, avocados are a great one. Maybe add in some more extra virgin olive oil over your steamed veggies? Macros something like (50g pro, 5g carb, 14-21g fat?)

4pm - power crunch protein bar or another portion of protein and vegetables I would dismiss protein bar obviously, mostly crap inside them with a bunch of artificial bullshit, try another source of protein like turkey chicken fish, or you could can of tuna. Again more EFA's if you're cutting carbs so much. Lets say 8oz protein again. (50g pro, 5g carb, 30g fat).

7pm - dinner consists of 8-10 oz of protein (red meat, chicken, turkey) along with a vegetable Nice, avocado right? Or you could do some natty peanut butter/almond butter. Any nut/seed oil/butter is going to have some decent EFA content. (50g pro, 5g carb, 30g fat)

9-10pm - casein protein shake before bed Casein is good if you can bear it, makes me sick to be honest. I'd opt for another whole food source like protein snack.

That's basically 2000-2500 calories. You shouldn't go below this to be honest. Work your way UP to get to at least 2000 kcals and it will help to speed up your body's metabolism. Also, while on the test, you'll be able to eat more and gain less adipose tissue. Problem lots of people have with caloric restriction is they are shutting their metabolisms down and it hurts them more than anything. You can't keep reducing your calories hoping to lose weight because of homeostasis. You're body will adjust and you'll keep lowering the caloric number, until what point? Zero? No no.

At first you may be thinking that's a lot of food since I guarantee you're not used to eating that much clean food a day. Start slowly. If you're eating 1000-1500 cals a day right now, climb slowly over the course of a few weeks. Listen to your body.

Hope it helps, just a quick breakdown and overview for you.

[jgnyc]

Sounds good to me.

Yeah proteins bars are crap. I'd rather see you eat beef jerky or something, haha. In all honesty you're diet is pretty low in carbs, which is one approach to cutting bodyfat, however if you do this I'd like to see you add some essential fatty acids in with your veggies...

For example: Rough estimate of macros and suggestions.



Hope it helps, just a quick breakdown and overview for you.

Your posts have been extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. To be honest, I do feel like I haven't been eating enough which is why I asked. I'll do away with the protein bars and start incorporating much of what you said. Veggies at breakfast is a great idea and I will incorporate it. I should have noted my mid morning protein shake does include 1 tablespoon of peanut butter as well as the banana and I usually do 1 1/2 scoops of protein (whey protein isolate) but I'll up it to 2 from now on. I do incorporate avocado at lunch and dinner from time to time but not nearly as much as I should. I usually season the grilled chicken for lunch with olive oil and seasonings (no sodium) but I'll start putting some olive oil over the veggies as well. The lunch size portion is accurate at about 8 oz daily btw. EFA's can also be found in nuts and seeds as well correct? I'll do some research on what other sources I can use to get EFA's from as well. If there are any you recommend, I'm all ears. The casein I can bear and to be honest, I enjoy it at night. I actually only mix the powder with water since I don't want to add in any extra fat/carbs before bed.

I'm very, very disciplined and dedicated when I put my mind to something and I'm extremely focused on doing this the "right" way. I greatly appreciate your advice and will definitely put it to use. I'm looking forward to this being the final steps to changing my life from 314 down to hopefully the 220 range.

Again, thank you very much for your help!

[oscarjones]

Your posts have been extremely helpful and greatly appreciated. To be honest, I do feel like I haven't been eating enough which is why I asked. I'll do away with the protein bars and start incorporating much of what you said. Veggies at breakfast is a great idea and I will incorporate it. I should have noted my mid morning protein shake does include 1 tablespoon of peanut butter as well as the banana and I usually do 1 1/2 scoops of protein (whey protein isolate) but I'll up it to 2 from now on. I do incorporate avocado at lunch and dinner from time to time but not nearly as much as I should. I usually season the grilled chicken for lunch with olive oil and seasonings (no sodium) but I'll start putting some olive oil over the veggies as well. The lunch size portion is accurate at about 8 oz daily btw. EFA's can also be found in nuts and seeds as well correct? I'll do some research on what other sources I can use to get EFA's from as well. If there are any you recommend, I'm all ears. The casein I can bear and to be honest, I enjoy it at night. I actually only mix the powder with water since I don't want to add in any extra fat/carbs before bed.

I'm very, very disciplined and dedicated when I put my mind to something and I'm extremely focused on doing this the "right" way. I greatly appreciate your advice and will definitely put it to use. I'm looking forward to this being the final steps to changing my life from 314 down to hopefully the 220 range.

Again, thank you very much for your help!

Glad I could help! Hope it pays off for you. You seem to know what you're doing. Yes, nuts and seeds whether it's in oil, butter, or natural form are very yielding of healthy fats. Also, fish oil supplements like Carlson's are probably the top choice for bio available EFA you could get your hands on, and if you spend money on any supplements, I would recommend this be one of them. Remember, proteins and carbs have a less dense caloric value than fats do, so if you are feeling like you need some more calories just up the fats a bit, especially when cutting carbs because you need at least 1 fuel source... Typically it's sugar, but many tend to increase their fat macros when their carbs are decreased as a compensation, less insulin spiking and higher levels of glucagon (the fat burning hormone, essentially).

[jgnyc]

Awesome, I will take that into account as well. You're the third person that has told me I should be taking the Carlson's fish oil... I think it's time I buy it and stop playing around with the fish oil pills, lol. I've printed out what you've recommended and will be using it as a reference sourece, so thank you again for your time. If you're interested once all is said and done, I'll post pics.

Thank you!