Hi ronnie! i was reading through your thread and it really caught my attention, as not only does it makes complete sense, but it also seems to produce great results in terms of size.
What do you think about running 2 19 nors during one cycle? I was thinking about running npp (i don't mind pinning more frequently it really doesn't bother me i kinda like it actually) and tren e in the same cycle. I have ran tren several times before with no problems at all.
I will be running caber eod at .50 and aromasin 12.5 ed and have letro on hand.
Also do you think running hcg during reload 2x 250mg per week then 1250mg of hcg eod during deload is a good idea since I'm running 2 19 nors? or how should i run it exactly for better results and keeping my balls safe?
I plan on running this cycle for 22 weeks then pct for 6 weeks, how long do you think i should stay off gear after this cycle before i jump back on if I'm trying to play it safe?
10 weeks including pct or more?
Another question is should i run my test at maintenance around 300 a week and run tren at 600 a week since they both fight for the same receptor and tren is the stronger one?
I want to run two 19 nors at the same time during my first reload. I have ran tren a at 75ed and sust 500 weekly and noticed more sides when i increased the sust so i lowered it and increased tren 100ed and sust at 500 with no sides.
I plan on keeping on eating 330grams of protein, 250 grams carbs, 65 grams of fats during reload (just an example) I'm around 175, but will adjust my diet according to my weight before i start the cycle in july.
and 230 grams of protein, 300 grams of carbs, 85 grams of fat (during deload)
Here is my planned cycle and workouts please tell me what i should change and or what you recommend i really want to stick with the 10 wk reload , 2 wk deload 8 wk reload 2 wk reload, then pct for 4-6 weeks
Week 1-6th (Reload)
Test prop- 100 EOD(350 wk)
NPP- 150 EOD (525 wk)
D-bol-50 ED
Test E- 300 EW (300 wk)
Tren E 300 2 x Week (600 wk)
HCG- 250 2 X W (500 wk)
Caber- .50 eod
Aromasin- 12.5 ed
Week 7-10th (Reload)
Test E- 300 EW (300 weekly)
Tren E-300 2 x W (600 weekly)
HCG- 250 2 X W (500 wk) or should i do more?
Caber- .50 eod
Aromasin- 12.5 ed
Week 11-12th (Deload)
Test E- 300 Ew (300 Weekly)
HCG- 250 2 X W (500 wk) should i increase hcg here? what will give me better results keeping it the same or will increasing it affect my results?
Caber- .50 eod
Aromasin- 12.5 eod
Week 13-16th (reload)
Test Prop- 100 EOD (350wk)
NPP- 150 EOD (525 wk)
HCG- 250 2 X W (500 wk)
Caber- .50 eod
Aromasin- 12.5 ed
Week 17-20th (reload) (the reason i want to run tren a is because that way i can run npp for 4 weeks and then switch to tren a for 6 more weeks)
Test Prop- 100 EOD (350 Wk)
Tren A- 75ED (525 Wk)
Winny- 50ed
HCG- 250 2 X W (500 wk)
Caber- .50 eod
Aromasin- 12.5 ed
Week 21-22th (deload)
Test Prop- 75EOD (262.5 wk)
Tren A- 50EOD (175 wk)
HCG- 1000 EOD
Caber- .50 eod
Aromasin- 12.5 eod
PCT
Nolva- 40/40/20/20/10/10
Clomid-50,50,25,25
Aromasin- 12.5 eod/12.5eod/12.5e3d
I'm not sure if its better to stick to a five day split or four day split?
(5day split)
Sunday: Chest + cardio & abs
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: Back & Forearms
Wed: Cardio+ abs
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Triceps & biceps
Sat: Cardio + abs
Or
(4 day split)
Monday: Chest, Biceps, calves
Tuesday: Back & triceps (or triceps with shoulders instead)
Wed: Cardio+ abs
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Shoulders & triceps (or triceps with back instead)
Sat: Cardio + Abs
Sunday: Cardio + Abs
(4 day split)
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: Chest & Back
Wed: Cardio+ abs
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Arms
Sat: Cardio + Abs
Sunday: Off or Start Day 1/legs again
Below are the workouts exercises i have planned.
Workout 1-10th week (Reload workout)
Sunday (Chest)
3 sets/reps x 20,20,15 (Warm up Lightweight)
12 working Sets
Incline DB Press (15 deg angle)
(4 sets/ Reps)12-15,10-12,10-12,8-10
Decline BB Press (-15 deg angle)
(4 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,10-12,8-10
Incline Flies (15 deg angle)
(3 sets/Reps) 10-12,10-12,10-12
Cable Flies
(1 drop set pyramid down "lowering weight while increasing reps for example 100 lbs /8-10reps +70lbs10-12reps + 40 lbs/12-15 reps)
30 mins cardio+ab circuit
Monday (Legs)
2 sets/reps 20+ reps (warm up lightweight)
12 working Sets (quads)
Squats
(4 sets/ Reps)15-12,10-12, 10-12,10-8
Leg Press
(4 sets/Reps) 15-12,10-12, 10-12,10-8
Lunges
(3 sets/Reps) 10-12,10-12 8-10
Leg Extensions
(1 Drop set/reps) 180lbs/12 reps, 135lbs/15, 90lbs/20 reps,
Hamstrings (8 working sets)
Stiff Deadlift
1 warm up set/20 reps
4 sets/reps x15-12,10-12,10-12,10-8
Leg Curls
4 sets/reps x 8-10,10-15,10-15, 15-20
Standing Calf Machine
5 sets/reps x 30, 25, 20, 15, 12
Sitting Calf Raises
(3 sets/reps) 15,15,12
Tuesday (Back)
Pull ups- 3 sets/reps x failure (Warm up- Wide Grip Pull ups)
12 working Sets
Med-grip rows (should i do underhand or overhand wide or med grip?)
(4 sets/ Reps)15-12,10-12, 8-10
wide-grip pull downs (wide grip or med grip?)
(4 sets/Reps) 15-12,10-12,8-10
Cable pullovers
(3 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,10-12
Machine rows
(1 drop set pyramid from heavy to light)
5 working sets
Forearm standing curls
(2 sets/Reps) 20-25,15-20
Sitting front forearm curls
(2 sets/Reps) 20-25,15-20
Standing dumbbell Twist
1 sets/Reps x 30-50
Wednesday (Cardio, Abs)
30 mins cardio+ab circuit
Thursday (Delts,)
Dumbell bb press- 2 sets/reps), 20,15 (warm up lightweight)
12 working Sets
Shoulder Barbell Press
(4 sets/ Reps) 12-15, 10-12, 8-10
Lateral Raises
(4 sets/Reps) 12-15, 10-12, 10-12, 8-10
Front Raises
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15, 10-12
Upright rows
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15, 10-12
(Shrugs)
3 working Sets
Barbell Shrugs
(3sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,8-10
Friday (Biceps & Triceps)
10 working sets
Warm up (Lightweight)
1 sets/reps x20
Standing ez-bar curls
(4sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,10-12,8-10
Preacher Curls
(4 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12, 10-12,8-10
(Standing dumbbell twist curls or Hammer curls)
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,
Warm up (Lightweight)
2 sets/reps x20, 20 (Triceps Cable Ext)
12 working Sets (triceps)
Triceps Cable pull downs
(4sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,10-12.8-10
Lying Triceps Extensions
4 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,10-12,8-10
Machine Dips
4 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12, 10-12,8-10
Saturday (off)
2 week workout (Deload workout)
Sunday (Chest)
Warm up (Lightweight)
(2 sets/reps x20,15 (on the exercise you start)
6 working Sets
Incline DB Press
(2 sets/ Reps) 12-15,12-15,
Decline BB Press
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15,
Cable Flies
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15,
30 min cardio+ abs circuit
Monday (Legs)
(2 sets/reps) 20,20 (Squats warm up light weight)
(Quads) 6 working sets
Squats
(2 sets/ Reps) 12-15,12-15
Leg Press
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
Lunges
(2 sets/Reps12-15,12-15
or 2 sets of Leg extensions
Hamstrings
1 warm up set/reps x25 (Stiff leg deadlifts)
Stiff leg deadlifts- 2 sets/reps) 12-15,12-15
Leg Curls- 2 sets/reps x 12-15,15-20
Standing Calf Machine
(2 sets/reps x 30,25
Sitting Calf Raises
(2 sets/reps x15, 15
30 min cardio+ abs circuit
Tuesday (Back)
Warm up (Lightweight)
(2 sets/reps x failure (Wide Grip Pull ups)
6 working Sets
Wide-grip rows
(2 sets/ Reps) 12-15,12-15
Wide-grip pull downs
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
Cable pullovers
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
4 working sets
Forearm standing curls
(1 set/Reps) 25-30, 20-25
Sitting front forearm curls
(1 set/Reps) 25-30,20-25
1 set of dumbbell arm twist x failure
Wednesday (Cardio, Abs)
30 min cardio+ abs circuit
Thursday (Delts,)
Warm up (Lightweight)
(2 sets/reps), 20,20 warm up sets (db shoulder press)
6 working Sets
Shoulder Barbell Press
(2 sets/ Reps) 12-15,12-15,
Lateral Raises
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
Front Raises
(1 sets/Reps) 12-15,
Upright rows
(1 sets/Reps) 12-15
(Shrugs)
2 working Sets
Barbell Shrugs
(2sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
Friday (Arms)
1 sets/reps x20 (warm up light weight)
(Biceps) 6 working Sets
Standing EZ-bar curls
(2sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
Preacher Curls
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15,
Standing dumbbell twist curls or hammer curls
(2sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
(2 sets/reps x20, 20 (Triceps Cable Ext warm up lightweight)
(Triceps)
6 working Sets
Triceps Cable pull downs
(2sets/Reps) 12-15,10-12,15
Lying Triceps Extensions
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,12-15
Machine Dips
(2 sets/Reps) 12-15,10-15
Saturday (off)
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