Gotta get this fixed...

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Went to the doc a few months ago with the usual symptoms of low t. Tired, gaining weight but not eating any more than normal. low libido, etc,. Basically my give a damn was gone. No interest in much of anything including sex and my favorite hobbies. Got the following blood test results:

14 Mar 2012

Free Test.......40.1 pg/ml.....(35.0 - 155.0)
Total Test......231 ng/dl.......(250 - 1100)
TSH..............3.43 uIU/ml...(.34 - 4.82)
Vit D.............34................(18 - 72)

He put me on Androgel 1% (5 gram packets) once daily. Went from getting by to feeling worse. New blood tests
as follows:

6 Jun 2012

Free Test.....16.2 pg/ml
Total Test....108 ng/dl
Estradiol......20.6 pg/ml.....(7.6 - 42.6)
SHGB..........23 nmol/l.......(10 - 50)

I also had another testosterone lab as follows:

Testosterone.....0.83 ng/ml.....(2.1 - 8.0) But I do not know what this one was measuring exactly. Any thoughts?

I have also been reading up on thyroid and it seems my TSH lab result might indicate a "sluggish" thyroid. Again, any thoughts on this? I have been considering doing a iodine therapy for some time now and probably will go ahead and do it now.

Needless to say the Androgel 5 gram packets are not working for me so my doc ordered the 7.5 gram Androgel pump. I told him I wanted injections from day one but he says injections cause liver and prostate problems and also to stay far away from hcg. I have an appointment with my NEW doc on the 9th of July. At least he does injections but don't know about the hcg. He is supposed to be the doctor who orders all the "weird" blood tests (according to the nurses) so, to me anyway, it sounds like he wants to get to the root of the problem. Anyway that's my story in a nutshell.

Well you know that you have the wrong guy. Any "Doctor" that tells you injections causes liver and prostate problems doesn't have an F'n clue as to what he's saying! How in God's name doesn't an injection pose a problem with the liver when it bypasses it completely???

You have very elevated TSH levels and is probably a result of your Hypogonadism.

For Thyroid please get:

TSH
T4
T3
RT3
Thyroid Antibodies

See the sticky on how to find a TRT Doc there is a list of blood panels you need on your next pull.

Also, see the link to Dr. John Crisler's website and please print his paper on the use of hCG and take it to your next appointment but be sure to read and understand it so you can speak intelligently to this new Doc. Also, read the sticky at the top of the forum on hCG and what you should know.

Your serum levels are clinically low and you need to know why and with what you listed here very little assessment can be made.

Did you have LH tested? If so, please post.

[ecdysone]

Well you know that you have the wrong guy. Any "Doctor" that tells you injections causes liver and prostate problems doesn't have an F'n clue as to what he's saying! How in God's name doesn't an injection pose a problem with the liver when it bypasses it completely???

The theory is that the superphysiological test levels typically experienced with injections (and not with the gels/creams) are stressful on the liver - probably true, but generally not something we worry too much about - and of course, minimized if you do 2x per week SQ dosing.

But i'm in full agreement with all the rest.