Why not low dose clomiphene instead of HCG on TRT?

[Simon1972]

basicaly the way i see it - clomid can be used if you have secondary hypogonadism - i think the question is wether long term use is safe, i know on a blog by a male health doctor that clomid is recomended over HCG if the pituatry is working as its less cumbersome etc...

http://www.maledoc.com/blog/2010/04/...ge-5/#comments

i subscribe to that line of thinking- if you have a functioning pituatry- why not excersise it? im not convinced shutting down pituatry function is a good option- something about that doesnt sit right with me.

also men taking clomid experience low libido and become emotional experience gyno - all are symptoms of high estrogen ( from aromatase conversion) i would suggest taking an AI temporarily alongside the clomid when these sides develop temporarily ( few days).

clomid increases test and also increases estrogen (thru aromatase conversion) which is free to bind- good if its in the right ratio- if it gets out of ratio eg too much estrogen,thats when the sides flare up , an AI which prevents the estrogen from being manufactured and thereby binding with the estrogen receptors in your manboobs may be a good idea.

its a fine balancing act- dont forget about the rebound effect if clomid is stopped. a taper off clomid or Dosing on an AI at the end of a clomid cycle is a good way of preventing sides.

does anyone else agree with my thinking>?

[Renholder]

i subscribe to that line of thinking- if you have a functioning pituatry- why not excersise it? im not convinced shutting down pituatry function is a good option- something about that doesnt sit right with me.

also men taking clomid experience low libido and become emotional experience gyno - all are symptoms of high estrogen ( from aromatase conversion) i would suggest taking an AI temporarily alongside the clomid when these sides develop temporarily ( few days).

clomid increases test and also increases estrogen (thru aromatase conversion) which is free to bind- good if its in the right ratio- if it gets out of ratio eg too much estrogen,thats when the sides flare up , an AI which prevents the estrogen from being manufactured and thereby binding with the estrogen receptors in your manboobs may be a good idea.

From what I can tell, the side effects are mostly completely dose related. With the low doses I`ve seen in studies on clomiphene monotherapy, no side-effects were reported. I did not experience any side-effects either.

Most of them seemed to restore enhance sexual function on clomiphene as well, but reading about the experience of others, loss of libido seems to be a common experience.

Regards,

Renholder