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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte

    Well yes, G has a strong odor. What does that have to do with inaccuracy?
    Just seems to me if you are going to call something oil based the majority of the carrier should actually be an oil. I've seen recipes where over 50% of the 'oil' was a combo of EO,G,BA or Bb. If over 50% is a solvent isn't it more accurate to call it a solvent based compound? If you brewed gear with over 50% alcohol (I know, just for the sake of argument) mixed with some oil would you consider it to be oil based or alcohol based?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    Just seems to me if you are going to call something oil based the majority of the carrier should actually be an oil. I've seen recipes where over 50% of the 'oil' was a combo of EO,G,BA or Bb. If over 50% is a solvent isn't it more accurate to call it a solvent based compound? If you brewed gear with over 50% alcohol (I know, just for the sake of argument) mixed with some oil would you consider it to be oil based or alcohol based?
    EO counts as a carrier, just like vegetable oils. So if you want to call it EO based, fine. But it really makes no difference.
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 06-28-2012 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte

    EO counts as a carrier, just like vegetable oils. So if you want to call it EO based, fine. But it really makes no difference.
    When Watson starts using EO as a carrier I'll be less inclined to be concerned by all these random compounds people use and inject. I've heard there are a few non FDA approved human grade test prop products on the market, but I've never seen then myself.

    Do you have no concern about injecting EO? How about guicol ? I've run primo that was EO based and was rotating shot sites on a 9-10 day schedule. I aspirated once and pulled out a oily slime that made me have second thoughts about some of these components.

    Today I stick strictly to gso, BA, BB, and PS80 with my water based products. If I can't get it to hold with these at reasonable levels (2% BA, 20% BB max) I'll dilute it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    When Watson starts using EO as a carrier I'll be less inclined to be concerned by all these random compounds people use and inject. I've heard there are a few non FDA approved human grade test prop products on the market, but I've never seen then myself.

    Do you have no concern about injecting EO? How about guicol ? I've run primo that was EO based and was rotating shot sites on a 9-10 day schedule. I aspirated once and pulled out a oily slime that made me have second thoughts about some
    of these components.

    Today I stick strictly to gso, BA, BB, and PS80 with my water based products. If I can't get it to hold with these at reasonable levels (2% BA, 20% BB max) I'll dilute it.
    Stop scaring the children. No really I don't follow you 100 percent but you are making wonder. Never really thought about what it's mixed with. What is eo and guicol? Do I want to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    When Watson starts using EO as a carrier I'll be less inclined to be concerned by all these random compounds people use and inject. I've heard there are a few non FDA approved human grade test prop products on the market, but I've never seen then myself.

    Do you have no concern about injecting EO? How about guicol ? I've run primo that was EO based and was rotating shot sites on a 9-10 day schedule. I aspirated once and pulled out a oily slime that made me have second thoughts about some of these components.

    Today I stick strictly to gso, BA, BB, and PS80 with my water based products. If I can't get it to hold with these at reasonable levels (2% BA, 20% BB max) I'll dilute it.
    Several HG injectables made by 1st world pharm companies use a 100% EO carrier.
    Ever heard of viromone?
    And G is only dangerous in high amounts, as it causes CNS toxicity (which is why I only use as much as needed). In lower amounts, it is great as a solvent and analgesic. It is/was also used pharmaceutically as an expectorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte

    Several HG injectables made by 1st world pharm companies use a 100% EO carrier.
    Ever heard of viromone?
    And G is only dangerous in high amounts, as it causes CNS toxicity (which is why I only use as much as needed). In lower amounts, it is great as a solvent and analgesic. It is/was also used pharmaceutically as an expectorant.
    Holy crap? Sane stuff as mucinex??

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    Holy crap? Sane stuff as mucinex??
    Well, they are both expectorants.
    But like FFM said, Mucinex is Guaifenesin.
    They are somewhat related, and naturally derived from the same tree.

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