Bulk then immediately cut

[mattywatson]

Hi guys

i am 19 years old i am competing in nabba next year around may time currently cutting at the minute since my bf is kinda high (17%) i have just recently bought my anabolics and growth for my bulk starting in September for 4 months and then going to start my 4 month cut to get ready for the show problem i have is i dont have time to do pct and recover before i jump onto my cutting anabolics i was thinking of starting to blast and cruise next year since my dream in life is to become professional bodybuilder the question i have is if after my bulk i jump straight onto my cut will i loose all my hard earned gains ? i will not be coming off steroids just changing the compounds

p.s i dont need anybody telling me my doses are to high, this is about my 9th cycle i added each compound 1 by 1

Bulking

------------------------------------CYCLE----------------------------------

1250mg test/ 1-20 weeks ----------
1000mg deca / 2 - 10 --------
800mg tren / 10-18 ----------
50mg dianabol/ 1-6 --------
growth 10iu (mon, tues, wed, thur, fri)

reduce dosages if sides are bad.

----------------------------On Cycle Protection----------------------------

Aromasn Dosage 12.5mg eod, if still get sides up to 12.5mg ed
Hcg Dosage 500iu twice a week (1000iu a week )
Caber dosage 0.50mg a week, 0.25 monday. 0.25 thursday (0.50 a week)


Cutting

Test Prop 500mg 1-20weeks
masteron 800mg 1-20
winny 14-20 100mg ed
Clen 1-3 weeks 40mcg | 4-6 weeks 60mcg | 7-9 weeks 80mcg | 10-12 weeks 100mcg | 13-14 weeks 120mcg ( 2 weeks off then repeat )
growth 5ius (mon,tue,wed,thur,fri)

Thank you

[Far from massive]

Not that I would think its a good idea under any circumstances, however if your dream is doable at least its less of a trainwreck. What are your current stats (pics would be great) other than BF? Since you are on your 9th cycle your stats should show whether or not you have a realistic chance to compete. Without pics most (myself included) are sure to feel this is just a fictitious post to garner attention.


Particularly in light of the fact your information says you are 23 yet now you have gone back in time 4 yrs...TROLL

[mattywatson]

Not that I would think its a good idea under any circumstances, however if your dream is doable at least its less of a trainwreck. What are your current stats (pics would be great) other than BF? Since you are on your 9th cycle your stats should show whether or not you have a realistic chance to compete.

at the minute im around 15 stone, i think my lean weight is around 13.7 (hopfully LOL) i dont have any current photos with me being on my mobile, ill try get some up, i am 5 ft 8, ive been training for say 3-4 year constant i used to dabble as a child,

and LOL i really never use this website so i must of set it when i first made it hahaha

[dogtags]

15 stone

Ughhhhhh I hate this crap. Like your scale tells you "15 stones"

[mattywatson]

Ughhhhhh I hate this crap. Like your scale tells you "15 stones"

well it says 95kg

[dogtags]

And you have done 9 cycles and have trained for only 4 years? Good lord your body must be a damn mess. Why was the last time you had bloodwork done?

[mattywatson]

And you have done 9 cycles and have trained for only 4 years? Good lord your body must be a damn mess. Why was the last time you had bloodwork done?

just currently got my blood took tuesday just gone waiting for results, before this was last year at december during pct and i was recovering fine and well with me wanting to turn into a professional bodybuilder theres not to much i can do about that

[DanB]

19 and 9 cycles? Dan smells b.s.

[dogtags]

19 and 9 cycles? Dan smells b.s.

Didn't even catch that... Yea this is obviously bs.

[mattywatson]

19 and 9 cycles? Dan smells b.s.

started cycling at 15-16 when i first entered a local comp

[mattywatson]

Christ sake could somebody just ask my original question ? would i loose my gains i wont be coming off just switching compounds and dropping cals adding cardio

[DanB]

and your now 17% b/f with dedication to permantly fvck up your hormones but not dedicated enough to keep b/f down to reasonable level?

best of luck

[mattywatson]

and your now 17% b/f with dedication to permantly fvck up your hormones but not dedicated enough to keep b/f down to reasonable level?

best of luck

my bodyfat is only that high because of my bulk last year when i got a injury

[MuscleInk]

started cycling at 15-16 when i first entered a local comp

Wow! Cycling at 15-16!?!?

Bye bye HTPA, but hey, I'm not here to judge. I'm just shocked.

[ironbeck]

This is a BS thread.......pretty sad ppl need attention that bad.

[MuscleInk]

Christ sake could somebody just ask my original question ? would i loose my gains i wont be coming off just switching compounds and dropping cals adding cardio

Is Christ a member here? Is he a juice head? I guess that explains why some call him The Almighty!

[mattywatson]

god this site sucks hahaha all these people comment and not 1 even tries to answer my question all complete ****ing trolls

can anybody just help me and give me a straight answer please?

[mattywatson]

I actually need help...

[MuscleInk]

So, if you've been cycling that long AND you're striving for pro, how is it you don't know how to maintain gains???? I would expect someone of your experience and purported knowledge to contribute to the forum, not be seeking knowledge that others would feel should be fundamental at your self proclaimed level of success.

It's easy to get on here and rant and throw dirt but at least try to do so in a manner that doesn't expose your own ignorance and naïveté.

[MuscleInk]

People will offer the help if you genuinely ask without defaming the members.

There are a lot of phenomenal people here with years of knowledge bro but if your pride and arrogance get in the way, you won't find what you're looking for.

No ones perfect my friend and a lot of guys here WILL help if you humble yourself just a little. Is that really too much to ask?

[mattywatson]

So, if you've been cycling that long AND you're striving for pro, how is it you don't know how to maintain gains???? I would expect someone of your experience and purported knowledge to contribute to the forum, not be seeking knowledge that others would feel should be fundamental at your self proclaimed level of success.

It's easy to get on here and rant and throw dirt but at least try to do so in a manner that doesn't expose your own ignorance and naïveté.

i would normally maintain my gains by doing a good pct and then taking time off to let my body get used to its new muscle keep calories up so i can recovery and get blood work to see how everything is coming back up, but i cant do that because i am strapped for time for this comp am not saying i am a genius im still learning and by no means am i as smart as people on this forum i just have the determination and heart, i didnt mean to offend and start a rant i just want somebody to give me a straight answer

[DanB]

i would normally maintain my gains by doing a good pct and then taking time off to let my body get used to its new muscle keep calories up so i can recovery and get blood work to see how everything is coming back up, but i cant do that because i am strapped for time for this comp am not saying i am a genius im still learning and by no means am i as smart as people on this forum i just have the determination and heart, i didnt mean to offend and start a rant i just want somebody to give me a straight answer

then your 9 cycles in 3yr dosnt add up, unless they were 4wk cycles lol

[mattywatson]

People will offer the help if you genuinely ask without defaming the members.

There are a lot of phenomenal people here with years of knowledge bro but if your pride and arrogance get in the way, you won't find what you're looking for.

No ones perfect my friend and a lot of guys here WILL help if you humble yourself just a little. Is that really too much to ask?

no your completely correct i was out of line, i apologize buddy

[mattywatson]

then your 9 cycles in 3yr dosnt add up, unless they were 4wk cycles lol

i am actually having a hard time remembering my cycles it might be more like 5-6 they were only 8-10 weeks

[MuscleInk]

no your completely correct i was out of line, i apologize buddy

Now we're getting somewhere!

[mattywatson]

Now we're getting somewhere!

i am really stressed lately cause i know im running out of time, so whats your take on what i have to do i will be getting constant blood work and then doing a HUGE pct after the cut take a few month off and then jump back on and possibly try blast and cruise technique

[castiron]

lets see some pics and you will get a straight answer

[Capebuffalo]

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About mattywatson

Age:
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Bulk then immediately cut

Hi guys

i am 19 years old i am competing in nabba next year

You tell me

[bigp87]

Regardless of your stats...

In short it is said that you would lose majority of your gains if you immediately start cutting after bulking... Also it happened to me

It is recommended to do pct, then wait maybe a further 4-6 weeks for your body to adapt to the new muscle tissue before cutting.

[< <Samson> >]

Pics or GTFO

[chadstud]

^lmao you have a way with words s

[< <Samson> >]

^lmao you have a way with words s

Come on man, 19 at those doses. . .Who in the hell are you? Arnold

[Capebuffalo]

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[DanB]

hmmmm sounds like my ma has found something interesting

[Capebuffalo]

Could it be?
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/mrw276/

[chadstud]

Come on man, 19 at those doses. . .Who in the hell are you? Arnold

I just thought it was funny lol

[< <Samson> >]

How do you all find this. . . .

Another super stud, sure needs 800mg of tren

[DanB]

Could it be?
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/mrw276/

i think we have a winner, here is some of his posts, hmmmmm several cycles with those pics? would his job like it either?

I turn 21 in 11 days. Seeing as how i'm home from college for summer...there are really no good places to just throw any massive house parties. My main idea right now is just go to a strip club on amateur night, get wasted, and have my friends buy me dances all night long lol. I live in a rural area so typically the only parties that are had is on farms, or someone goes to a bar but I wanna go a little more extreme than that. Strip Club bad idea misc?? PLEASE HELP. All opinions are welcome.

^^^^^^^^^^^

Dreams of a pro bb'er lmfao

So confirmed bullshit and troll

Good catch my man

[Capebuffalo]

For my man Dan

Vincent: I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse that I will take. Now, right now, I'm a ****in' race car, right, and you got me the red. And I'm just sayin', I'm just sayin' that it's ****in' dangerous to have a race car in the ****in' red. That's all. I could blow.
Jules: Oh! Oh! You ready to blow?
Vincent: Yeah, I'm ready to blow.
Jules: Well, I'm a mushroom-cloud-layin' mother****er, mother****er! Every time my fingers touch brain, I'm Superfly T.N.T., I'm the Guns of the Navarone! IN FACT, WHAT THE **** AM I DOIN' IN THE BACK? YOU'RE THE MOTHER****ER WHO SHOULD BE ON BRAIN DETAIL!

[< <Samson> >]

Oh damn, you shot Marvin. . . Fvck, I didn't mean to.