T3 or clen

[Razor]

Hi, I'm no medical expert and a chic to boot... however, I wanted to point out that T3 has been used in the medical community (not just for thyroid issues, but for depression/bipolar as well). It has long standing usage and is considered safe. That being said - you can abuse anything, and understanding what it does is helpful.

It does increase your metabolic rate. Great. Awesome.
It does increase your systolic blood pressure. Ok, maybe not so awesome. That's the figure we don't want creeping up too far past 120
It does increase protein synthesis. Back to pretty awesome.
It does increase your heart rate. Again, maybe not so awesome... Might get palpitations, etc. If you have a history of heart problems, well... be careful.

Important details no one seems to mention:
Kinda important: It can effect your sleep as well.. you take too much, can cause nervousness and sleeplessness (basically you'll mimic hyperthyroidism).
Important: Some folks have an allergic reaction to it. It can cause hives.. or you can have a serious reaction to it. Just be aware of this possibility if you've never taken it.
Very important: In clinical/medical settings - you ramp up on T3. Patients start on a fairly low dose... like 25mcg, and up it after about a week. You can bump it about 25mcg each week... maintenance for someone with a thyroid condition is about 100-150mcg... no idea what recommended dosing is for weight loss for an average sized dude... but I can't shrug off the medical communities advice on ramping up the dosage over 2-3 weeks.... You might consider tapering it down gradually as well... else you might feel peculiar...

All that being said... I'm not advocating one over the other. I think it depends on personal pref and how your body responds. Clen isn't without it's issues - not the least of it being - it's toxic.

I hope some of this was helpful. Best of luck -- m

Does t4 have the same benefits as t3 that you mentioned?

[mi-chan]

Does t4 have the same benefits as t3 that you mentioned?

Now, this is where I get a little hazy to be truthful... T4 is actually what the thyroid produces and it's converted to t3 by the liver.... I don't know much about this conversion process, how efficient it is, etc. Taking t4 will increase your t3 levels, so it follows that it will have the same effect over time. The thing I do know - stays in your system longer - any sides might take a bit longer to surface...

Maybe some other folks can chime in - I have heard t4 is 'safer', but that is just word of mouth. Sorry I couldn't provide more info on this one... --m

[Razor]

Now, this is where I get a little hazy to be truthful... T4 is actually what the thyroid produces and it's converted to t3 by the liver.... I don't know much about this conversion process, how efficient it is, etc. Taking t4 will increase your t3 levels, so it follows that it will have the same effect over time. The thing I do know - stays in your system longer - any sides might take a bit longer to surface...

Maybe some other folks can chime in - I have heard t4 is 'safer', but that is just word of mouth. Sorry I couldn't provide more info on this one... --m

Well I was diagnosed with bipolar and depression stemming from PTSD from the war in the middle east, so anything that helps with those I'm all ears. I'm on t4 and seem to feel a lot better since I been on it. I enjoyed reading your post about this, thank you!