A HOW TO for: SERM’s, Aromatize inhibitors, Gyno and PCT *A must read*

[Juced_porkchop]

There are plenty of things that i do not agree with in this and like Bonaparte said, it seems like you copied [B]some of it . The part that is poorly written. Furthermore some of the positions you take, to me, indicate you dont have a full understanding of the topic.....

That is fine if oyu feel some is poorly written and some copied. but its all me.
I was in a car accident and it make it hard for me to put the words together at some times, so I have to go over it a couple times.

I feel I have a very good understanding on this topic and many years of studies in this.
I have helped alot of people but I am onlynow making bigger posts so people can just come to read and hope they learn something
Just because you oppinon is not the same as mine doesnt mean your wrong, and just because my view on something is not like yours, doesnt mean I am wrong.

What positions do you not agree with?

[tboney]

That is fine if oyu feel some is poorly written and some copied. but its all me.
I was in a car accident and it make it hard for me to put the words together at some times, so I have to go over it a couple times.

I feel I have a very good understanding on this topic and many years of studies in this.
I have helped alot of people but I am onlynow making bigger posts so people can just come to read and hope they learn something
Just because you oppinon is not the same as mine doesnt mean your wrong, and just because my view on something is not like yours, doesnt mean I am wrong.

What positions do you not agree with?

I apologize for anything that I may have said to offend you. That is not productive for me to say and I have no buss critiquing anyone's writing.. One of the things that i take issue with is your opinion tht short esters will not have a significant effect on testicular atrophy.. and there fore hcg during the cycle is not needed. The amount of atrophy varies from one person to another. There is no way to know.

Why do you feel Nolva and clomid are not needed for pct?

[Juced_porkchop]

I apologize for anything that I may have said to offend you. That is not productive for me to say and I have no buss critiquing anyone's writing.. One of the things that i take issue with is your opinion tht short esters will not have a significant effect on testicular atrophy.. and there fore hcg during the cycle is not needed. The amount of atrophy varies from one person to another. There is no way to know.

Why do you feel Nolva and clomid are not needed for pct?

No prob man, Its ok, I should always go over my stuff f a few times, even my GF tells me to because when I don’t, I look illiterate or like a Neanderthal, but it’s not the case.

I meant short cycles not short esters (though yes with short esters too as that tend to be used for shorter times), but you are correct one guys shut down maybe more than the next guy even if there cycle was the same, so it is hard to say EXACLY what one will need.
But with shorter cycles usually there is less shut down. (At least from people I have talked to, seen post and my own experience with PCT and cycles, when I used to do PCT's (on HRT now)

I don’t think using HCG during the whole cycle is a good idea nore at big doses and unless you NEED your balls huge (like if you’re a porn star or w/e) I feel the possibility of desensitisation or permanent damage to the testies is a possibility from HCG use and I only think limiting that chance to be the best way to go about HCG use.
But yes it depends on person’s views, goals and body.
That is why I rec HCG only on longer cycles or when using deca or tren as they and compounds like them seem to suppress the body more so than most other anabolics (I have no study for that statement though, just my experience and others off the forums, there is lots of studies on shut down , but not in relation to all steroids sadly, but if you found/find one let me know :-) ) and only rec the HCG in the tail end of the cycle leading up to but not into PCT. ( of course this may vary person to person)

I never said Nolva and Clomid are not needed (better to have) for PCT, I meant I don’t feel you need BOTH of them at the same time for most peoples PCT’s.
I feel one of them enough for most people. Of course I would rec a PCT and I would rec both if a person really has issues with recovery and they feel it helps.
But for most I think it is unneeded added drugs and SERMS also have possible side effect so why not limit its use if possible.
Guess you need to weigh your own pro’s Vs. Con’s when it comes to this stuff.