Keeping hard earned gains after a cycle

[IEatSteroidsMmmm]

stop giving advice. your 21. You even said your just getting into understanding everything. You can hold muscle with pct. What your posting can be dangerous.
you psoted guys in there 70's who are fine.
What about my friend art atwood who dropped dead last year.

your friend did not drop dead from a little test, please go.

you can only hold muscle after PCT if you didn't reach your natty limit... in which case you won't even look like you cycled.

[Judah]

Looks like paynESTER caused such a stir we lost focus haha.

[gixxerboy1]

your friend did not drop dead from a little test, please go.

you can only hold muscle after PCT if you didn't reach your natty limit... in which case you won't even look like you cycled.

and most members havent reached there natural limit. Or arent looking to be on trt for life.

no it wasnt a little test, but if you dont think running high doses for years has an effect on your health you have no clue.

and im sure you all know more about it. What do i know i only knew him

[IEatSteroidsMmmm]

and most members havent reached there natural limit. Or arent looking to be on trt for life.

no it wasnt a little test, but if you dont think running high doses for years has an effect on your health you have no clue.

and im sure you all know more about it. What do i know i only knew him

of course it has an effect on your health, i never said it didn't, but it takes a LOT of anabolics and very little proactivity on your part to kill yourself with gear (assuming gear was all he was taking.. and with upper level BB that's never the case) and you're making it seem like these kids are going to mess themselves up if they stay on a little test between cycles rather than coming off completely. i have no problem admitting it isn't good for you, but it's blown SO FAR out of proportion here that it's actually depressing.

[gixxerboy1]

of course it has an effect on your health, i never said it didn't, but it takes a LOT of anabolics and very little proactivity on your part to kill yourself with gear (assuming gear was all he was taking.. and with upper level BB that's never the case) and you're making it seem like these kids are going to mess themselves up if they stay on a little test between cycles rather than coming off completely. i have no problem admitting it isn't good for you, but it's blown SO FAR out of proportion here that it's actually depressing.

will staying on a little test between cycles kill them? No. But they probably wont recover when they want to stop. So everyone doesnt want to be on for life. So there is consequences to it

[Judah]

I can't afford nor do I want to to be "on" 365 days a year lol. So besides my PCT, what else will help me hold on to gains?

[PaynESTER]

I can't afford nor do I want to to be "on" 365 days a year lol. So besides my PCT, what else will help me hold on to gains?

By the time you buy nolva clomid what other crap, you could afford an 80 dollar bottle of test.
If you can't you might need a new job!

[gixxerboy1]

By the time you buy nolva clomid what other crap, you could afford an 80 dollar bottle of test.
If you can't you might need a new job!

staying on has consequences to it. Thats fine if you dont want to believe it. not everyone wants to compete, has the same lifestyle or wants the same results. Stop telling everyone to stay on all the time

[Judah]

By the time you buy nolva clomid what other crap, you could afford an 80 dollar bottle of test.
If you can't you might need a new job!

So your saying that 4 weeks of PCT using Clomid and Nolvadex is more expensive than staying on Test 365 days a year?