HGH - Anadrol Question

[Matt]

yeah i was thinking bout it, ill be turning 20 soon, would you say its ok to cycle then?

Honestly i would wait mate, your body will be producing more than enough testosterone to continue to make substantial gains with a solid workout routine and diet, rest too is important..

However if you insist on using aas then test alone will work great for a first run...

[Bevsta123]

Honestly i would wait mate, your body will be producing more than enough testosterone to continue to make substantial gains with a solid workout routine and diet, rest too is important..

However if you insist on using aas then test alone will work great for a first run...

yeah understood, iv been making decent gains I was thinking bout holding off till i hit my next plateau, thanks for the constructive response Matt, much appreciated

[PaynESTER]

Honestly i would wait mate, your body will be producing more than enough testosterone to continue to make substantial gains with a solid workout routine and diet, rest too is important..

However if you insist on using aas then test alone will work great for a first run...

"On the contrary, the body produces a small amount each day which is far below 200mg (It's around 10mg). That small amount is concentrated at the beginning of the day and then falls low by the end of the day. This process repeats itself every day and by the end of two weeks, a normally functioning body produces approximately 140mg of testosterone (appx. 70mg per week)."

[Matt]

"On the contrary, the body produces a small amount each day which is far below 200mg (It's around 10mg). That small amount is concentrated at the beginning of the day and then falls low by the end of the day. This process repeats itself every day and by the end of two weeks, a normally functioning body produces approximately 140mg of testosterone (appx. 70mg per week)."

I don't know why you say "on the contrary"?? I said the op still has enough natural test to continue to make gains, he then confirmed this....

Are you arguing with me for the sake of it???

[Bevsta123]

I said the op still has enough natural test to continue to make gains, he then confirmed this....

just out of curiosity how would you know your not making gains, like as well all know natty lifting is a "slow" process and as the person lifting how would you notice your muscular gains are getting slow (besides the obvious strength gains getting slow)?

[Popeye's]

Honestly i would wait mate, your body will be producing more than enough testosterone to continue to make substantial gains with a solid workout routine and diet, rest too is important..

However if you insist on using aas then test alone will work great for a first run...

Isn't he too young? Would that cycle be safe? I'm talking about the side effects - long term?

Also, test alone? He should run something along side that?

[Matt]

Isn't he too young? Would that cycle be safe? I'm talking about the side effects - long term?

Also, test alone? He should run something along side that?

Yes i believe he is to young mate however its his body and as long as he knows the possible effects using aas at any age can cause then im not here to give him a hard time...

Test alone is a great starting point, why throw other compounds in there?? Get to where you want by using as little as possible imo..

[Popeye's]

Yes i believe he is to young mate however its his body and as long as he knows the possible effects using aas at any age can cause then im not here to give him a hard time...

Test alone is a great starting point, why throw other compounds in there?? Get to where you want by using as little as possible imo..

So then test e/c at 300/500mgs weekly is enough? Nothing else? he should take something to keep his gains or at least something to throw back the side effects?

[gixxerboy1]

So then test e/c at 300/500mgs weekly is enough? Nothing else? he should take something to keep his gains or at least something to throw back the side effects?

yes an ai on cycle and proper pct of nolva and clomid

[Popeye's]

yes an ai on cycle and proper pct of nolva and clomid

Yeah, I think that would be more proper for the kid - even if at the first place, he shouldn't take test!

[Matt]

yes an ai on cycle and proper pct of nolva and clomid

Exactly....

[Bevsta123]

yes an ai on cycle and proper pct of nolva and clomid

would you by chance know if the AI's that are ordered online with-held from Australia Customs?

[gixxerboy1]

would you by chance know if the AI's that are ordered online with-held from Australia Customs?

i know ar-r has a good success rate shipping to oz

[Bevsta123]

Matt is right - I mean, how can you argue with a guy that has over 30,000 posts here??? Straight up BEAST!

.....and Gixx.....well, Gixx is the next thing to god around here, so when he speaks, you'd be wise to listen.

Ya, it's not what you want to hear. Having a young, "Mr. Olympia" beach body to strut around and impress the babes is ideal, but the guys are right. At your age your natty testosterone should be blasting. If you feel it's not, have an MD run a blood panel and check all your hormone levels. If your testosterone level is low, then maybe HRT would be the way to go. If everything is normal for your age, taking any PH, AAS, or even GH can disrupt the performance of your HTPA and shut things down before you finish developing naturally. Moreover, despite what others have suggested, exogenous GH does in fact elevate your HR and BP, but the degree of change varies individually. I'd like to see what your nutritional plan is like. Gear and GH isn't the "get big fast" path you think it is. There are numerous side effects that you may not be aware of and a lot of damage you can do to your body. When the time is right, the stuff could really help you reach new potentials but taken too early you could be faced with life long problems. Moreover, if your diet is poor, any gains you see will disappear in the absence of nutrition to support those gains once you cycle off any hormonal supplement.

Nutrition plan isn't perfect but its better then how i first started, only part im lacking in nutrition is maintaining that same nutrition plan on weekends, must admit sometimes i let go on the weekends but its soon to change.

So then test e/c at 300/500mgs weekly is enough? Nothing else? he should take something to keep his gains or at least something to throw back the side effects?

PCT is pretty obvious to any cycle recommended

[MuscleInk]

Nutrition plan isn't perfect but its better then how i first started, only part im lacking in nutrition is maintaining that same nutrition plan on weekends, must admit sometimes i let go on the weekends but its soon to change.



PCT is pretty obvious to any cycle recommended

When you get a second, summarize your macros and post here. That'll help us see how to achieve and sustain gains. Ya, weekends are the achilles heel for many people.

[Bevsta123]

When you get a second, summarize your macros and post here. That'll help us see how to achieve and sustain gains. Ya, weekends are the achilles heel for many people.

9am - 4 whole eggs, bowl of cerial/fish fillets/chicken breasts - varies from day to day
10:30am - 3 scoops Dymatize elite mass (4 scoops full serving)
12pm - 250g grilled chicken breast, brown rice/pasta, potatoes/veggies
3pm - 200/300g grilled steak, pasta, sweet potato
5pm - 3 whole eggs, 2 scoops Dymatize
630-730 workout
7:50pm 3 scoops Dymatize, chicken/turkey/steaks/fish (depends on my mood) sides always vary sometimes I'll have the dinner made by mum aha
9-11pm if still craving something I'll slam down another 2 scoops of Dymatize (all shakes with full cream milk)

I usually have little things to nibble on throughout the day

[MuscleInk]

Honestly i would wait mate, your body will be producing more than enough testosterone to continue to make substantial gains with a solid workout routine and diet, rest too is important..

However if you insist on using aas then test alone will work great for a first run...

Matt is right - I mean, how can you argue with a guy that has over 30,000 posts here??? Straight up BEAST!

.....and Gixx.....well, Gixx is the next thing to god around here, so when he speaks, you'd be wise to listen.

Ya, it's not what you want to hear. Having a young, "Mr. Olympia" beach body to strut around and impress the babes is ideal, but the guys are right. At your age your natty testosterone should be blasting. If you feel it's not, have an MD run a blood panel and check all your hormone levels. If your testosterone level is low, then maybe HRT would be the way to go. If everything is normal for your age, taking any PH, AAS, or even GH can disrupt the performance of your HTPA and shut things down before you finish developing naturally. Moreover, despite what others have suggested, exogenous GH does in fact elevate your HR and BP, but the degree of change varies individually. I'd like to see what your nutritional plan is like. Gear and GH isn't the "get big fast" path you think it is. There are numerous side effects that you may not be aware of and a lot of damage you can do to your body. When the time is right, the stuff could really help you reach new potentials but taken too early you could be faced with life long problems. Moreover, if your diet is poor, any gains you see will disappear in the absence of nutrition to support those gains once you cycle off any hormonal supplement.