so from my understanding...

[austinite]

ok so i got this from one of the stickys so i could just do


Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate WEEKLY

Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno.

Post Cycle Therapy

Clomid therapy three weeks after last sust350 shot ran as follows:

Day 1 - 300mg
Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
Day 12-21 - 50mg/day



so all i would need is those 3 products and follow this for my first ride? do i not need those "herbal" supps for liver and such since injectables arent nearly as bad for liver as orals are?

Test E is best run 12 weeks. You need an AI on cycle, like adex @.25 EOD. PCT should be nolva and clomid, clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20 -- start pct 14 days after last pin.

This should only be done if your diet and training are on point, and your BF is at or less than 15%.

[gearbox]

Test E is best run 12 weeks. You need an AI on cycle, like adex @.25 EOD. PCT should be nolva and clomid, clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20 -- start pct 14 days after last pin.

This should only be done if your diet and training are on point, and your BF is at or less than 15%.

agree with above. you can run hcg along your cycle for better recovery, but that is up to you. And you need everything austinite said above to run a proper cycle.