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    I think i am quite disciplined with my diet i eat around 2500 calories when dieting and 3500 when bulking I am 180 lbs 7% bodyfat (Bench 300, Deadlift 525 and squat 455) and train very hard. The reality is that i am a competitive and train so frequently that it is very difficult to recover between sessions. Anavar has helped me do that and I feel that the benefits of steroids even at my age outweigh the detriments. With that said however i liked anavar because it is not a testosterone based steroid in it requires very little PCT. I am quite young so i do not like to use steroids that have a strong effect on my bodies natural testosterone levels. Austinite why would you advise so strongly against anavar use at a younger age? There is very little information about this so I would really appreciate all of your feedback .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroyden View Post
    I think i am quite disciplined with my diet i eat around 2500 calories when dieting and 3500 when bulking I am 180 lbs 7% bodyfat (Bench 300, Deadlift 525 and squat 455) and train very hard. The reality is that i am a competitive and train so frequently that it is very difficult to recover between sessions. Anavar has helped me do that and I feel that the benefits of steroids even at my age outweigh the detriments. With that said however i liked anavar because it is not a testosterone based steroid in it requires very little PCT. I am quite young so i do not like to use steroids that have a strong effect on my bodies natural testosterone levels. Austinite why would you advise so strongly against anavar use at a younger age? There is very little information about this so I would really appreciate all of your feedback .
    I reckon you should keep smashing the Anavar mate.

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    Yea, that sounds good...wait till your pp stops working. Contrary to what people think; Anavar will shut you down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steroyden View Post
    I think i am quite disciplined with my diet i eat around 2500 calories when dieting and 3500 when bulking I am 180 lbs 7% bodyfat (Bench 300, Deadlift 525 and squat 455) and train very hard. The reality is that i am a competitive and train so frequently that it is very difficult to recover between sessions. Anavar has helped me do that and I feel that the benefits of steroids even at my age outweigh the detriments. With that said however i liked anavar because it is not a testosterone based steroid in it requires very little PCT. I am quite young so i do not like to use steroids that have a strong effect on my bodies natural testosterone levels. Austinite why would you advise so strongly against anavar use at a younger age? There is very little information about this so I would really appreciate all of your feedback .

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    Quote Originally Posted by grind4it View Post
    Contrary to what people think; Anavar will shut you down.
    It will suppress you to some extent (maybe 30-60% realistically), but it should never cause complete shutdown (i.e. 0 test).
    It lacks the estrogenic (or progestigenic) activity needed for this at the pituitary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    It will suppress you to some extent (maybe 30-60% realistically), but it should never cause complete shutdown (i.e. 0 test).
    It lacks the estrogenic (or progestigenic) activity needed for this at the pituitary.
    thanks Bonaparte, I have been searching for a % on var for awhile. And of course you already knew...

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    Fellas, please stop perpetuating parroted, erroneous information as if it were factual.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    It will suppress you to some extent (maybe 30-60% realistically), but it should never cause complete shutdown (i.e. 0 test).
    It lacks the estrogenic (or progestigenic) activity needed for this at the pituitary.
    ^^^Very good educated guess!

    Var indeed will NOT shut you down, an undisputable fact that should be common knowledge by now. Suppression is all you should expect, making how much the only relevant question.

    At least one very well designed 12-week Var study involving 262 HIV positive men and increasing dosages of 20, 40, and 80 mg discovered a 45% suppression of HPTA at 20 mg and 40 mg, with a 66% HPTA suppression in the 80 mg group. Although I don't specifically recall the study title or author, it can be readily retrieved from 'Anabolics, 10th Edition' by William Llewellyn, in the ' Oxandrolone Side Effects (Testosterone Suppression)' section.

    Additionally, numerous self reports and clinical studies have conclusively determined there to be NO performance, recovery, or aesthetic benefit in the administration of Var beyond 80 mg/ed. Waste your gear/cash if you want but 80 mg is the ceiling. Lastly, please remember to observe the half-life (8-12 hours) dictated twice daily dosing for optimal bb'er benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Fellas, please stop perpetuating parroted, erroneous information as if it were factual.



    ^^^Very good educated guess!

    Var indeed will NOT shut you down, an undisputable fact that should be common knowledge by now. Suppression is all you should expect, making how much the only relevant question.

    At least one very well designed 12-week Var study involving 262 HIV positive men and increasing dosages of 20, 40, and 80 mg discovered a 45% suppression of HPTA at 20 mg and 40 mg, with a 66% HPTA suppression in the 80 mg group. Although I don't specifically recall the study title or author, it can be readily retrieved from 'Anabolics, 10th Edition' by William Llewellyn, in the ' Oxandrolone Side Effects (Testosterone Suppression)' section.

    Additionally, numerous self reports and clinical studies have conclusively determined there to be NO performance, recovery, or aesthetic benefit in the administration of Var beyond 80 mg/ed. Waste your gear/cash if you want but 80 mg is the ceiling. Lastly, please remember to observe the half-life (8-12 hours) dictated twice daily dosing for optimal bb'er benefit.

    Best to you.
    thats true if your getting 100% legit HG anavar.

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    sometimes less training is more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroyden
    I think i am quite disciplined with my diet i eat around 2500 calories when dieting and 3500 when bulking I am 180 lbs 7% bodyfat (Bench 300, Deadlift 525 and squat 455) and train very hard. The reality is that i am a competitive and train so frequently that it is very difficult to recover between sessions. Anavar has helped me do that and I feel that the benefits of steroids even at my age outweigh the detriments. With that said however i liked anavar because it is not a testosterone based steroid in it requires very little PCT. I am quite young so i do not like to use steroids that have a strong effect on my bodies natural testosterone levels. Austinite why would you advise so strongly against anavar use at a younger age? There is very little information about this so I would really appreciate all of your feedback .
    Impressive stats, but I'm going to disagree on the benefits outweighing the risks. You are seeing benefits now but just because the risks haven't manifested themselves and the absence of risks today does not preclude their emergence later. At your age, the risks are real and as Bonaparte pointed out, you are indeed arresting your testosterone production.

    Ultimately the decision is yours. We are not your mother, father, or conscience, however ownership of the decision must be equally yours. I'm all for a bigger, better, body but I think you're cutting yourself short cycling anything at 19.

    Lastly, few people really have an understanding of diet and the commitment to nutrition in this area of sport. You may be one of the exceptions and I'm certainly not trying to pass judgement....but we do lie best to ourselves.

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