Test E question

[Radu99]

Hey, i am in my 4th week of test e 500 mg a week 250 on monday and 250 on thursday and still didnt feel anything yet no strenght or anything. I know the vials are valid cuz i bought em from Balkan Pharm and checked the code on their site so any suggestions?

[Radu99]

I even did my blood work and my E2 lvls and testoseron were through the roof so i know for sure it is real just dont understand why it aint working yet.

[Capebuffalo]

Patients young grasshopper.

[fit2bOld]

^^^^ and all of sudden the strength will kick in....

[Capebuffalo]

Your 18 yrs old. Synthetic test only works on hormonal systems that are matured. Sorry bro. Should go ahead and stop now. It's no use.

[Radu99]

Can u explain more please?

[Radu99]

I mean if u take lee priest for example he juiced since 17 if not even 16 so how is that?

[Capebuffalo]

Lee was a phenom. He had a beta rector on his t6 hormonal lipid platelet like a mature male of 30 yrs old plus. You never read anything about that? I'm telling you medically your wasting your time.

[Radu99]

Well i did got to an endo doc before i started he told me my stage 5 masculinization( sorry dont know how u really say it in english) is almost done judging by hair balls test lvls etc i have an adults body.

[Capebuffalo]

Well i did got to an endo doc before i started he told me my stage 5 masculinization( sorry dont know how u really say it in english) is almost done judging by hair balls test lvls etc i have an adults body.

Well I guess your doctor will have the answer to your question

[Radu99]

I didnt mean to offend you or anything sorry if i did i came here for a lil bit of help cuz u know how docs are 90 % dont even know shit about roids cuz they dont learn in school and they dont lecture about em too and the other 10 % just keep talking about health risks and dont wana help you anyway saying it aint what a doc should do. So saying that what u said about not being mature still applies to me what should i do now stop injctions and w8 one more year and what about pct should i do it?

[Radu99]

I would really need a conclusion on what has been said so far and an answer to my pct and stop cycle question cuz tomorow would be an injecting day so if u could please answer would be awesome. Thank you!

[Papa-pwn]

he's just giving you crap cause you're 18. The gains will come, probably in the next couple weeks, just be patient, just finish out the cycle and run pct 2 weeks after your last pin.

[Radu99]

So ur saying that i shouldnt worry that i dont feel anything after 4 weeks ?

[Radu99]

Guys i dont want to get pushy but i really do need a few more advices please!

[Papa-pwn]

So ur saying that I shouldnt worry that i dont feel anything after 4 weeks ?

Exactly. Since your tests say your gear is not bunk, you should start seeing gains soon, provided you are eating and training correctly. Everyone is different, I started seeing sides like acne and oily skin early on,yet no substantial gains until the 5th-6th week.

[Metalject]

Your 18 yrs old. Synthetic test only works on hormonal systems that are matured. Sorry bro. Should go ahead and stop now. It's no use.

Synthetic test works on all hormonal systems...that doesn't mean teenagers should use it. You can increase test levels at the age of 16, 19, 22, 25, 33, 42 or wherever your age falls. The reason people tell adolescents or young adults not to use synthetic testosterone is twofold. Most importantly because it can cause irreversible damage to a developing androgen system. Secondly, most are already producing large amounts of natural testosterone and can make good gains with that. That said, 500mg/wk of synthetic test will take this guy at his age beyond what is naturally possible...it may not be the best idea at 18yrs old due to the primary reason, but it's still going to be a big increase in total levels.

[Metalject]

To the OP, after 4wks, if the product is decent you should notice something. I know Test-e takes a min to fully kick in but 4wks is long enough to notice some type of positive effect. If you're using an HG test-e like Primoteston or Testoviron, especially if you have some experience with steroids you'll notice and overall enhancement of your wellbeing fairly fast, as in a wk. I know some will argue this but it shouldn't be surprising. Test-e even though its long acting actually provides a quick spike of testosterone in the first 48hrs and then continues to act like a long lasting testosterone. This is why a lot of the old testosterone mixtures that contained the Enanthate ester fell out of popularity in TRT circles.

[Capebuffalo]

Synthetic test works on all hormonal systems...that doesn't mean teenagers should use it. You can increase test levels at the age of 16, 19, 22, 25, 33, 42 or wherever your age falls. The reason people tell adolescents or young adults not to use synthetic testosterone is twofold. Most importantly because it can cause irreversible damage to a developing androgen system. Secondly, most are already producing large amounts of natural testosterone and can make good gains with that. That said, 500mg/wk of synthetic test will take this guy at his age beyond what is naturally possible...it may not be the best idea at 18yrs old due to the primary reason, but it's still going to be a big increase in total levels.

smart guy. I was trying to give a bullshit answer to an underrated person so I didnt have hear why for an hour. Used to be an unwritten rule no advise to 18-19 yr olds but as of today that seem to have changed. I made up a t6 lipid panel by the way. So thanks for the bio lesson.

[austinite]

18? Should be skateboarding and focusing on school. Eat, workout and stay away from gear. I feel like a broken record.

[Metalject]

smart guy. I was trying to give a bullshit answer to an underrated person so I didnt have hear why for an hour. Used to be an unwritten rule no advise to 18-19 yr olds but as of today that seem to have changed. I made up a t6 lipid panel by the way. So thanks for the bio lesson.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you that someone that's 18yrs old shouldn't be using steroids. Still, IMO it's better to give real answers on how things work rather than BS just because someone's young. That's the only way people can learn how these things work.

[austinite]

I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you that someone that's 18yrs old shouldn't be using steroids. Still, IMO it's better to give real answers on how things work rather than BS just because someone's young. That's the only way people can learn how these things work.

Then recommend that OP stop cycling.

[Radu99]

I dont think a teen can suffer irreversible dmg from roids at 18 years old when many stages are also complete if u do a good PCT after and u dont stay with low testosteron for a long time i think most of people having problems is due to the fact that they shut down their own test and never do anything to get it back after what im still concerned and not clear about is if it real works on this age cuz im not talking about gains im talking about not feeling anything in 4 weeks no acnee no oily skin no strenght actually i did my cholesterole check and was 160 before cycle it was 180 thats strange maybe it is like that cuz of the estrogen anyway so is it normal to not feel anything after 4 weeks do other people experience a slow test kick in also?

[Radu99]

Also correct me if im wrong on the first thing i said.

[Radu99]

And i got a fist and knee x-ray also before i started and doc said the growing plates are closed already so there is no chance i would grow any taller anyway.

[austinite]

I dont think a teen can suffer irreversible dmg from roids at 18 years old when many stages are also complete if u do a good PCT after and u dont stay with low testosteron for a long time i think most of people having problems is due to the fact that they shut down their own test and never do anything to get it back after what im still concerned and not clear about is if it real works on this age cuz im not talking about gains im talking about not feeling anything in 4 weeks no acnee no oily skin no strenght actually i did my cholesterole check and was 160 before cycle it was 180 thats strange maybe it is like that cuz of the estrogen anyway so is it normal to not feel anything after 4 weeks do other people experience a slow test kick in also?

Nice. I'll use myself as the example.

No natural test production since age 27. (on TRT for life)
No erections since age 31. (even with TRT I still need a magic pill)
No clear skin, hyper-pigmentation allover back and shoulders.
-- Extreme depression and suicidal thoughts from age 27 to 31 (OK... that one is fixed).
a few more I don't care to mention.

Steroid abuse? Try a single cycle at age 19. Don't spit junk out of your mouth.

[Radu99]

Sorry i didnt get the last line ''Steroid abuse ? Try a single cycle at age 19. Don't spit junk out of your mouth.'' can u please explain it ? And ur saying u did use roids when u were 18 and u got all of the above?

[austinite]

Sorry i didnt get the last line ''Steroid abuse ? Try a single cycle at age 19. Don't spit junk out of your mouth.'' can u please explain it ? And ur saying u did use roids when u were 18 and u got all of the above?

Thats exactly what Im saying. I ran one cycle. Stopped. Damage started to show up at age 27 when I was extremely fatigued and went it for blood work. Test levels were lower than one could fathom. I refused TRT and attempted natural suppliments. Nothing worked. Age 31 I developed ED and finally buckled and went into a longevity clinic and got on TRT for life. all this was caused by running that single cycle.

[Radu99]

So if i stop now just after 4 weeks and do PCT ( dont know if its important but by looking at my balls they also didnt shrink at all yet ) u think the dmg will be lil or maybe no dmg at all?

[austinite]

So if i stop now just after 4 weeks and do PCT ( dont know if its important but by looking at my balls they also didnt shrink at all yet ) u think the dmg will be lil or maybe no dmg at all?

Everyone is different bud. I can tell you with certainty, that the sooner you stop, the better your chances are. Just stop and run pct. 4 weeks isnt as bad as 8 or 10. You're listening so this tells me that you have a good head on your shoulders. Just be smart. All your tough friends that are getting huge now, will be looking up to you later when you're rockin the hot blonde and looking good.

Pay now (in the gym) and play later. OR... you can play now (with juice) and Pay later, like me.

[Radu99]

Ok and one more question even if apparently my balls are still intact i can be 100% sure that after 4 weeks my own test production is stopped aye? and if so how much pregnyl should i do?

[Radu99]

Cuz if i take pregnyl and its no use i can do more harm thn good like actually inhibiting my natural test.

[Metalject]

Then recommend that OP stop cycling.

That wasn't the point. While you're right, an 18yr old shouldn't be using steroids, giving answers to young guys all the time like "you're too young" or "come back when you're older" is counterproductive IMO. I understand answers are given like that to push young guys away from steroids, but guess what, it almost never works. Most people are going to do what they want once they've made their mind up about it if they think they can beat the odds of negative effects whether it's actually in their favor or not. As that's the case, it's better to give real answers, explain to them what's going on, not just the bad but the good and the bad. Hopefully for their sake if they are too young they'll listen and hopefully they'll learn something about steroids and be a little more prepared once they're older. If they don't listen, that's not your fault, everyone is responsible for their own actions.

Also, your story in regards to your own experience when you were younger, that's why most young guys shouldn't take steroids, I agree with this too. Even so, that's not always the outcome. I used my first steroids at the age of 20 and nothing happened. How about Arnold, he was using at 16.

Now before you or anyone says I'm condoning young steroid use, again, I'm not. I'm just painting the larger picture and always will with all my responses because it's not always as black and white as people tend to make it.

[Capebuffalo]

Everyone is different bud. I can tell you with certainty, that the sooner you stop, the better your chances are. Just stop and run pct. 4 weeks isnt as bad as 8 or 10. You're listening so this tells me that you have a good head on your shoulders. Just be smart. All your tough friends that are getting huge now, will be looking up to you later when you're rockin the hot blonde and looking good.

Pay now (in the gym) and play later. OR... you can play now (with juice) and Pay later, like me.

Than You For Your Invaluable Advise.

[Capebuffalo]

That wasn't the point. While you're right, an 18yr old shouldn't be using steroids, giving answers to young guys all the time like "you're too young" or "come back when you're older" is counterproductive IMO. I understand answers are given like that to push young guys away from steroids, but guess what, it almost never works. Most people are going to do what they want once they've made their mind up about it if they think they can beat the odds of negative effects whether it's actually in their favor or not. As that's the case, it's better to give real answers, explain to them what's going on, not just the bad but the good and the bad. Hopefully for their sake if they are too young they'll listen and hopefully they'll learn something about steroids and be a little more prepared once they're older. If they don't listen, that's not your fault, everyone is responsible for their own actions.

Also, your story in regards to your own experience when you were younger, that's why most young guys shouldn't take steroids, I agree with this too. Even so, that's not always the outcome. I used my first steroids at the age of 20 and nothing happened. How about Arnold, he was using at 16.

Now before you or anyone says I'm condoning young steroid use, again, I'm not. I'm just painting the larger picture and always will with all my responses because it's not always as black and white as people tend to make it.

Your right. There is the truth so they understand. It just gets a little tiresome telling them the same thing day after day and them not listening.I tried a different approach.Austin has practical experience and the advise to go with it. I think he at least gave him something to think about.

[Radu99]

So about the PCT how sould i do it and with what and what dosage thinking its only been 4 weeks and my balls are the same ( i know this aint so important cuz what matters is the LH that is inhibited for sure by now )

[fit2bOld]

he's just giving you crap cause you're 18. The gains will come, probably in the next couple weeks, just be patient, just finish out the cycle and run pct 2 weeks after your last pin.

And this is great advice a 20 year old giving an 18 year old the green light.

[austinite]

So about the PCT how sould i do it and with what and what dosage thinking its only been 4 weeks and my balls are the same ( i know this aint so important cuz what matters is the LH that is inhibited for sure by now )

I dont run HCG during PCT.

clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20

[austinite]

So about the PCT how sould i do it and with what and what dosage thinking its only been 4 weeks and my balls are the same ( i know this aint so important cuz what matters is the LH that is inhibited for sure by now )

I dont run HCG during PCT.

clomid 100/50/50/50... Nolva@ 40/20/20/20

[Radu99]

so 1 month of clomid and nolva?