Is their really any point to use AAS if you dont plan on staying on?

[Judah]

There has got to be a flaw in this logic, no?

I mean if a person who has reached thier genetic muscle potential will lose all thier gains from AAS, then why do all the vets ALWAYS recommend the skinny fellas to get bigger prior to using AS? I mean if this is the case, then heck, i'd much rather get from 140-180 in 1 year using AAS and keep my gains versus get to 180 naturally in 5 years and then get to 200 using AS and lose all of it when injections stop.

Something just doesn't add up, IMO.

That answer is very simple. Someone who is "skinny" as you put it, has not learned how to eat and train correctly. It's pointless to do a cycle if you have not learned to achieve gains naturally. This is exactly the type of person who will lose all their gains post cycle. Does that make sense?

[Trying-Hard]

That answer is very simple. Someone who is "skinny" as you put it has not learned how to eat and traine correctly. It's pointless to do a cycle if you don't have not learned to achieve gains naturally. This is exactly the type of person who will lose all their gains post cycle. Does that make sense?

Sure, that makes sense. You are refering to a skinny person who doesn't know how to eat as the one to lose their gains due to the lack of knowledge of training and diet - we agree.

But what doesn't make sense to me is that a 180 lbs person that is natural and knows how to eat and train decides to go on a cycle and gets to 200 lbs, but then loses it all after not injecting any more depsite continuing with a strong diet / training routine. This doesn't make sense to me.

I mean if this is true, I feel that it is more of a penalty to work hard and get to your natural potential before cycling - and just typing that out doesn't make any sense to me.

[Judah]

Sure, that makes sense. You are refering to a skinny person who doesn't know how to eat as the one to lose their gains due to the lack of knowledge of training and diet - we agree.

But what doesn't make sense to me is that a 180 lbs person that is natural and knows how to eat and train decides to go on a cycle and gets to 200 lbs, but then loses it all after not injecting any more depsite continuing with a strong diet / training routine. This doesn't make sense to me.

I mean if this is true, I feel that it is more of a penalty to work hard and get to your natural potential before cycling - and just typing that out doesn't make any sense to me.

I think there is a little confusion here. What I'm saying is, regardless of your current stats and expeince, if your losing most or all your gains after a cycle and your not at your gentetic max, then your doing something wrong. Yes there are exception. Some people have terrible gentetics lol. Yes, you will not look as "good" off, nobody does...but you will have a net net gain after the cycle if your doing what your suppose to and are not yet at your genetic max