Atomini's all-you-need-to-know about TREN and how to use it effectively thread!

[jacobk91]

can you explain to me why i keep hearing tren puts a lot stress on the liver? (or if it even does) i keep hearing how hard it is on your liver from some people, and other people say it doesn't stress the liver any more than any other steroid. How can an injectable cause liver stress? also, is it any harder on the kidneys than other steroids?

i plan on running tren a eventually at 250 mg a week. Do you think i should run liv52 (or other liver protection) while on tren? Also, can most kidney damage be prevented by drinking upwards of 2 gallons a day? Would it be a good or bad idea to use finasteride on tren to help prevent hairloss?

[Atomini]

can you explain to me why i keep hearing tren puts a lot stress on the liver? (or if it even does) i keep hearing how hard it is on your liver from some people, and other people say it doesn't stress the liver any more than any other steroid. How can an injectable cause liver stress? also, is it any harder on the kidneys than other steroids?

i plan on running tren a eventually at 250 mg a week. Do you think i should run liv52 (or other liver protection) while on tren? Also, can most kidney damage be prevented by drinking upwards of 2 gallons a day? Would it be a good or bad idea to use finasteride on tren to help prevent hairloss?

Tren doesn't put ahigh amount stress on the liver - it is not C17AA and as an injectable it avoids the first pass. However, it is known that tren is ever so slightly liver toxic due it its ability to resist hepatic breakdown greater than many other anabolic steroids. I have had my liver values checked with bloodwork many times after my tren cycles and have had ZERO problems. All of my enzyme levels were pefectly healthy, which would signify that likely the liver-stressing effect of tren is extremely minimal at best. For safety, one could run a good liver protectant such as Liv 52 or TUDCA/UDCA while on tren if one is extremely concerned.

Kidney damage has been a commonly touted effect of tren. I can say that tren is no harsher on the kidneys than most AAS. The origin of this rumor comes from the fact that often while on a tren cycle, you will find your urine becomes a very dark rusty color (this does certainly happen with me). It is not because your kidneys are being damaged. That dark rusty color are the metabolites of tren being excreted out of your body in your urine. Trenbolone seems to oxidize to a dark rust color very easily, even under refrigeration. The discolored urine tends to happen often, with no signs of renal toxicity. Also, trenbolone acetate is still widely used in animals for carcass weight increase. There seems to be no mention of kidney toxicity in animals, or with the few historical human trenbolone preparations. So basically, what some think is blood in the urine is actually just the metabolite of tren coloring the urine much darker.

Finasteride will not prevent hair loss from tren, due to the fact that tren is already highly androgenic and does not convert to DHT. Finasteride treatment would prove to be useless.

[jacobk91]

Tren doesn't put ahigh amount stress on the liver - it is not C17AA and as an injectable it avoids the first pass. However, it is known that tren is ever so slightly liver toxic due it its ability to resist hepatic breakdown greater than many other anabolic steroids. I have had my liver values checked with bloodwork many times after my tren cycles and have had ZERO problems. All of my enzyme levels were pefectly healthy, which would signify that likely the liver-stressing effect of tren is extremely minimal at best. For safety, one could run a good liver protectant such as Liv 52 or TUDCA/UDCA while on tren if one is extremely concerned.

Kidney damage has been a commonly touted effect of tren. I can say that tren is no harsher on the kidneys than most AAS. The origin of this rumor comes from the fact that often while on a tren cycle, you will find your urine becomes a very dark rusty color (this does certainly happen with me). It is not because your kidneys are being damaged. That dark rusty color are the metabolites of tren being excreted out of your body in your urine. Trenbolone seems to oxidize to a dark rust color very easily, even under refrigeration. The discolored urine tends to happen often, with no signs of renal toxicity. Also, trenbolone acetate is still widely used in animals for carcass weight increase. There seems to be no mention of kidney toxicity in animals, or with the few historical human trenbolone preparations. So basically, what some think is blood in the urine is actually just the metabolite of tren coloring the urine much darker.

Finasteride will not prevent hair loss from tren, due to the fact that tren is already highly androgenic and does not convert to DHT. Finasteride treatment would prove to be useless.

Wow thanks for the detailed reply! You have eased some of my concerns. very informative read.