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    ur not on gear, so whats the point of eating 500 carbs or at a higher surplus? no matter what u can only gain so much lbm in a months time. 0.3- 0.5 lets be realistic 5lbs lbm a year is good. Go to the grocery store and grab packs of fresh chicken breasts and have a serious good look at 1 lbs of breast and you honestly think u gained that in 30 days natural? eating a surplus so big ur way over compensating for that i would think.

    LBM is alot different then EGO body mass. You dont want fat, water and all that jazz. You want the good shit

    and remeber as long as you are doing resistance training 3+ times a week even eating blow maintenance you wont induce catabolic proteins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    ur not on gear, so whats the point of eating 500 carbs or at a higher surplus? no matter what u can only gain so much lbm in a months time. 0.3- 0.5 lets be realistic 5lbs lbm a year is good. Go to the grocery store and grab packs of fresh chicken breasts and have a serious good look at 1 lbs of breast and you honestly think u gained that in 30 days natural? eating a surplus so big ur way over compensating for that i would think.

    LBM is alot different then EGO body mass. You dont want fat, water and all that jazz. You want the good shit

    and remeber as long as you are doing resistance training 3+ times a week even eating blow maintenance you wont induce catabolic proteins.
    OK so stick with 300carbs? And can you elaborate more on the first paragraph, hard to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor

    OK so stick with 300carbs? And can you elaborate more on the first paragraph, hard to follow.
    Adjust carbs as needed. If you're working out 4x or more and doing fasted cardio, see how you do. 300g may be low but yes, with no gear it could be within requirements. You should adjust as needed. I review my macros daily and adjust as needed to stay within prescribed ranges.

    I'm eating 400+g carbs and protein daily and dropping weight.

    .....of course I'm running a ridiculous stack until end of month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor View Post
    OK so stick with 300carbs? And can you elaborate more on the first paragraph, hard to follow.
    gaining LBM lean body mass , and especially naturally inst all that easy. i gave you an example take chicken breast, solid muscle. grab 1lbs and have a good look you're gonna gain less then this a month with hardcore training, good diet etc etc.

    Too many people look at the bloat, the pump and scale weight and will be like "sick i grow 4 lbs this week" everything you do, including your daily calorie needs has to be based off lean muscle mass. especially protein intake.

    remember a lot of guys fill out nicely with fat and water, makes their chest bigger, back pumps and what not. look at 405 at 27% bf down to 7% does it look like hes getting smaller ?? hes been eating in a deficit all this time minus some cheating on his part.

    also your daily calorie needs has to be based off your lbm, not your weight. and i learned the hard way and with 405 help that even if your weight goes down. but your lbm is going up your TDEE gets bigger, not smaller even if you are losing weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    gaining LBM lean body mass , and especially naturally inst all that easy. i gave you an example take chicken breast, solid muscle. grab 1lbs and have a good look you're gonna gain less then this a month with hardcore training, good diet etc etc.

    Too many people look at the bloat, the pump and scale weight and will be like "sick i grow 4 lbs this week" everything you do, including your daily calorie needs has to be based off lean muscle mass. especially protein intake.

    remember a lot of guys fill out nicely with fat and water, makes their chest bigger, back pumps and what not. look at 405 at 27% bf down to 7% does it look like hes getting smaller ?? hes been eating in a deficit all this time minus some cheating on his part.

    also your daily calorie needs has to be based off your lbm, not your weight. and i learned the hard way and with 405 help that even if your weight goes down. but your lbm is going up your TDEE gets bigger, not smaller even if you are losing weight.
    Very interesting. I have many things to think about and go over now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    gaining LBM lean body mass , and especially naturally inst all that easy. i gave you an example take chicken breast, solid muscle. grab 1lbs and have a good look you're gonna gain less then this a month with hardcore training, good diet etc etc.

    Too many people look at the bloat, the pump and scale weight and will be like "sick i grow 4 lbs this week" everything you do, including your daily calorie needs has to be based off lean muscle mass. especially protein intake.

    remember a lot of guys fill out nicely with fat and water, makes their chest bigger, back pumps and what not. look at 405 at 27% bf down to 7% does it look like hes getting smaller ?? hes been eating in a deficit all this time minus some cheating on his part.

    also your daily calorie needs has to be based off your lbm, not your weight. and i learned the hard way and with 405 help that even if your weight goes down. but your lbm is going up your TDEE gets bigger, not smaller even if you are losing weight.
    Interesting timing of this comment. I'm on a "bulking" cycle but managed to drop 5 lbs already but it's not a loss of strength or muscle. I'm getting leaner. It's too easy to get caught up looking at the scale and freaking out when the numbers go down or celbrating early when the numbers go up. It's gains in LBM, not water or fat that should be the goal and sometimes this means your totla body weight will decline as fat is reduced.

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