Oral test

[drose979]

My buddy wants to try his first cycle but doesn't want to pin. I read on Internet that there is an oral test but can't remember name. Can someone help me and tell me about it and whether it's worth a sh$t

[swm1972]

It's made by organon and it's called Andriol. It's used for HRT not for cycling. It is going to be cost prohibitive to use something like this as the base of a cycle. If he wants to use testosterone he needs to man up and learn to pin. If not he can try the ill advised but extremely common oral only cycles consisting of one of several oral compounds. Dbol, anavar abombs, winny, superdrol, etc. He can run any of those and see some level of results over the course of a few weeks. The trick is keeping those gains through post cycle therapy.

[Capebuffalo]

Nothing worth anything comes without pain and sacrifice. Tell your "friend" the first pin is always the worst. Every oe after that gets easier.

[austinite]

I've used the prescription version. Had a terrible taste. You're supposed to put it under the tongue and let it melt. Really disgusting, I had to discontinue immediately. Even if one could tolerate it, This is not a good option for a cycle.

[t-dogg]

Man up and pin. If I could do it ANYONE can do it. ME=scared like a little girl of needles since I was a kid. Met my fear head on, may of took a half hour but I did it lol.

[< <Samson> >]

Pinning def seems like a must in this game. My opinion is stay away from orals, period. But, people swear by them & they work. But, test is a must since your natural test production will be shut down by what ever orals you take.

[t-dogg]

Pinning def seems like a must in this game. My opinion is stay away from orals, period. But, people swear by them & they work. But, test is a must since your natural test production will be shut down by what ever orals you take.

If you are going to use AAS then pinning is the way to go. IMO, for orals anavar is the only thing I will ever use. Everything that is worth it/good is injected.

[drose979]

He's not afraid of pinning he's afraid of the needle in his hand. Former drug addict now addicted to working out. He sees how I shot past him and wants it but is scared of himself. Yea I thought the cost would be substantial. I gave him some dbols I had laying around but told him he won't like what they do. Ordered him some Nolva and clomid but doubt he'll keep much. Thanks for the info

[swm1972]

He's not afraid of pinning he's afraid of the needle in his hand. Former drug addict now addicted to working out. He sees how I shot past him and wants it but is scared of himself. Yea I thought the cost would be substantial. I gave him some dbols I had laying around but told him he won't like what they do. Ordered him some Nolva and clomid but doubt he'll keep much. Thanks for the info

Additive personalities can go over board on anything. He needs to understand once he takes this step he might find himself unwilling to come off. Once the gains start to slowly slip away, or he misses that 'on cycle feeling', etc... He might find he has traded one addiction for another. It isn't chemically addictive (IMO), but you can certainly get addicted to looking a certain way and the attention it bring. Good luck to him either way.

[drose979]

He's doin dbol only cycle 50 mg Ed I told him to run it 6-8 weeks but not sure best pct and dosage for him. He's 33 6'3 205 prolly around 10%. Someone help me out?

[rampaige77]

well its just a bad idea to cyce orals period IMO but alone is bad for a multitude of reasons n for his 1st cycle why 50mg ? 15-25mg on 1st cycle seems to be enuff for 1st timers that ive seen but hey if hes banging orals only on his 1st cycle why not just destroy himself ? how bout 100mg ... more is not better specialy 1st time .. tell him to sack up grab some test n become a pincushon as David allen coe once sang "Itll only hurt for a little while ,Ill only stick the head of it in." well maybe a bad compairison but whatever TEST TEST TEST TEST TEST

[rampaige77]

yes sir

[rampaige77]

Man up and pin. If I could do it ANYONE can do it. ME=scared like a little girl of needles since I was a kid. Met my fear head on, may of took a half hour but I did it lol.

i recall my 1st time stabbing myself being time consuming as well

[swm1972]

i recall my 1st time stabbing myself being time consuming as well

Me too. I put it away the first night and tried again in the morning. I looked away and moved the needle toward my leg. When I looked back it was about 2/3 of the way in. I couldn't believe I couldn't even feel it. Amazing how much our minds screw with us over such a simple thing.

[Times Roman]

It's made by organon and it's called Andriol. It's used for HRT not for cycling. It is going to be cost prohibitive to use something like this as the base of a cycle. If he wants to use testosterone he needs to man up and learn to pin. If not he can try the ill advised but extremely common oral only cycles consisting of one of several oral compounds. Dbol, anavar abombs, winny, superdrol, etc. He can run any of those and see some level of results over the course of a few weeks. The trick is keeping those gains through post cycle therapy.

agree. andriol is hard to find, very expensive, and you have to take every 4 hours, and tough on the liver.

I decided to pin once a week.

easy on the liver

easy to find

very inexpensive.



seems like a no brainer to me......

....unless someone is afraid of a little needle?

(bwok bwok)

[Times Roman]

i recall my 1st time stabbing myself being time consuming as well

My first time was in basic. we were doing some nerve gas antidote training (atropine). so you just slap your leg hard, pound the device into your quad, and the needle deploys, even through your pants.

easy money

[MuscleInk]

Nothing worth anything comes without pain and sacrifice. Tell your "friend" the first pin is always the worst. Every oe after that gets easier.

Right Cape?

Tell him to suck it up and not suck out. If this was easy everyone would be doing and would be successful. You want to play, you gotta pay!

[rampaige77]

Me too. I put it away the first night and tried again in the morning. I looked away and moved the needle toward my leg. When I looked back it was about 2/3 of the way in. I couldn't believe I couldn't even feel it. Amazing how much our minds screw with us over such a simple thing.

YEA NOW IM PUSHING THROUGH SCAR TISSUE IN MY QUADS PAIN OR NOT I JUST PUSH THROUGH ITS A GOOD THING THAT TIGHT CRUNCHY GRISSLE THEN THE POP AS IT PUNCHES THROUGH , im joking kinda

[MuscleInk]

YEA NOW IM PUSHING THROUGH SCAR TISSUE IN MY QUADS PAIN OR NOT I JUST PUSH THROUGH ITS A GOOD THING THAT TIGHT CRUNCHY GRISSLE THEN THE POP AS IT PUNCHES THROUGH , im joking kinda

Balls to the wall Rampaige. That a boy!!!!

[swm1972]

YEA NOW IM PUSHING THROUGH SCAR TISSUE IN MY QUADS PAIN OR NOT I JUST PUSH THROUGH ITS A GOOD THING THAT TIGHT CRUNCHY GRISSLE THEN THE POP AS IT PUNCHES THROUGH , im joking kinda

I've actually heard that crunch sound a couple times pinning my quads. That was when I started shooting glutes.

[rampaige77]

I hate shooting where i cant see it or control it ,im built like a hobbit my friends call me the "Vanilla Gorilla" man if i could get a good shot in my fat ass i would, im just not comfortable shooting where i cant see . I mean im sure i could manage it but after this last cycle fiasco i just had im gonna go a long while b4 i cycle again well except the S4 i just got

[t-dogg]

I hate shooting where i cant see it or control it ,im built like a hobbit my friends call me the "Vanilla Gorilla" man if i could get a good shot in my fat ass i would, im just not comfortable shooting where i cant see . I mean im sure i could manage it but after this last cycle fiasco i just had im gonna go a long while b4 i cycle again well except the S4 i just got

Just stand on one foot and lean to the side. Look in the mirror to pin in your glute. You stand on the other leg you are not pinning. You lean on the wall so the "pin leg/glute" has no weight on it and makes it much easier to do. Hope that helps.

[rampaige77]

Just stand on one foot and lean to the side. Look in the mirror to pin in your glute. You stand on the other leg you are not pinning. You lean on the wall so the "pin leg/glute" has no weight on it and makes it much easier to do. Hope that helps.

lol sounds like twister, ima try it next run unless its a painful prop fellas gotta poo

[crazy4amazing]

Hi there! I have read all posts above. I am 30 yo 70 kg 173cm and also first-timer. Have recently purchased D-anabol (+ Deca-Test 123 as complimentary). They are all for oral use. What do you recommend in my case? How can i test since it is my first cycle?
Thanks everyone in advance.

[senorrebo]

Yeah, I was PETRIFIED of needles. I had to have my girlfriend pin me the first few times and winced like someone was cutting off my hands. After the third time, it didn't bother me anymore. It might take a few pins to get used to it, but it can be done.

[Back In Black]

Hi there! I have read all posts above. I am 30 yo 70 kg 173cm and also first-timer. Have recently purchased D-anabol (+ Deca-Test 123 as complimentary). They are all for oral use. What do you recommend in my case? How can i test since it is my first cycle?
Thanks everyone in advance.

Start your own thread instead of bumping other people's old threads, thank you!

[crazy4amazing]

ok..thanks anyways thought might be relevant