
 Originally Posted by 
Patz
					
				 
				This is the best reply I gotten so far. thank you Warmouth for replying to me. I really appresuate, I would you to reply on this aswell! 
Clen and Winstrol did much with me. I dropped from 100kg down to 87kg. I was flattered, I was happy, and I was very sadicefied with using Clen, it was no side effects and did a boungh of kiloes away from my body.  It didnt do as much as you think.  It spead up your metabolism, which you werent getting enough macros in anyways.  It didnt build hardly any muscle, just accented what you had under the pudge
Now that I am "skinny" as you say, I don't feel skinny at all. that picture is taken after loads of situps, crunches and other belly exercies and 1hour 30mins on 3DMill while having an incite on 15. and a speed of 7km/t 
So only by that I felt that i dropd some pounds. But you are very skinny.  You have to eat to build mass, or anything you do willbe wasted(whether it be exercise or AAS).  Food should be priority number 1.  You didnt have and still dont have the physique to cut.  Zyzz had the mass to cut, you dont yet.  I am telling you with certainty that you would have had better results with diet alone in 2 months than you did with that cycle.
Still, I can see you all tell me that I should wait years, eat healthy, diety, and keep up with training normaly. 
My workouts are Mon-Sunday (every ****ing day, yes indeed) for 1-2 hours. But not having experience with training before using, this will more than likely burn you out.  Not many people here or elsewhere workout 7 days a week.  This is another reason that you are not ready for this.  Rest is as important that training.  Diet is more important than either.  Being that you are new to working out, 3-4 days is more than sufficient.
I want to get my dream body, ASAP!
I know I need to use something to get this.Patience is a virtue.  The harder you work at your goals, the more likely you will keep them and continue the lifestyle.  This goes for everything you do in life.  NEVER take the shortcuts.  You will never suceed at anything doing that.  Hard work pays off, and the end result will be something you are much more proud of.
And I have seen alot of results of ppl using anavar etc, together with either T3, Clen or Test Prop together with Tren Ace. I am intrested in knowing what you think are the best. Not why I should wait. Test supposed to be used as a base for every cycle.  What you are not understanding is that at your age, you are naturally producing as much Test as we are "supplementing" with.  This is why you will grow very fast naturally because you have not nearly reached your genetic potential.  Your Test levels should be throught the roof.  There is no need to shut yourself down when you are producing enough to do exactly what you want to do.  And you also have no reasone to use a fat burner with your current stats regardless.  T3 and Clen is definitely nothing you should experiment with until you actually form a base to build on.  Seriously man, you dont have a solid foundation and need to put on mass.  Atominis diet is what you should aim for, but if you cant afford it, try to get as close as you can.  Let your mom or sis eat the salads, and you go for the meat and veggies.  Get weight on first.
But thanks again. Great reply, and yeah, Zyzz cloning accepted :P " I want to be a SHREDDA ****, So many other can be MIRIN!!"
Best Regards PatrickBe yourself and nobody else.  You have to be happy in your own skin because you are the only you in the world.  Let people try to imitate you, not you imitate them.  You be the example and the leader.  Maybe you can be the influence on the young guys that come on here, and they can look up too you and seek advice from you.  You be your own zyzz and let eveyone else 'mir you
PPS: THANKS WARMOUTH FOR GREAT REPLY!