How to determine acceptable weight gains?

[gixxerboy1]

A lot of times when a guy gains 20 plus lbs on a 1st cycle.He was way under his nat limit.Most times these guys shouldve waited to build a base.So its relly hard to say wat one will gain.But if you cant gain on food you wont keep anything you gain on aas.

agree. It usually the smaller guy that shouldnt be using yet that make huge gains. I'm lucky if i gain 5lbs of lbm on a cycle.

[t-dogg]

agree. It usually the smaller guy that shouldnt be using yet that make huge gains. I'm lucky if i gain 5lbs of lbm on a cycle.

True story. Im not a big guy at all, but I think I pretty much hit my max weight naty a few years ago. I wasnt making any big gains and pretty much hit a wall. I doont agree with people saying you should always hit 200lbs naty.

Then again, Im not a body builder. I rather have lean gains then bloat up with water and such.

[kmms]

agree. It usually the smaller guy that shouldnt be using yet that make huge gains. I'm lucky if i gain 5lbs of lbm on a cycle.

understand the sentiment. at 42 however i've been training in the gym (weight training and mma) as well as competing professionally around the world in my sport for over 20 years now. pretty good idea of what my own personal limits are.

[gixxerboy1]

understand the sentiment. at 42 however i've been training in the gym (weight training and mma) as well as competing professionally around the world in my sport for over 20 years now. pretty good idea of what my own personal limits are.

i wasnt talking about you specifically. You were asking about gaining 4lbs in the first 4 days and someone else posted about gaining 13kg in 2 weeks.

What are your stats?

[kmms]

i wasnt talking about you specifically. You were asking about gaining 4lbs in the first 4 days and someone else posted about gaining 13kg in 2 weeks.

What are your stats?

5'11
74.4kg as of yesterday
no idea about BF% really, if it has any relevance my chest measures 41" and my waist is 28/29. can show a visible 8 pack when standing up, not seated and relaxed. my uneducated guess would be around 15%? have muscle definition everywhere from calves to traps.
goal is to reach around 82kg's with same or slightly lower BF%