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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor View Post
    How do you run HCG infinitely and avoid overstimulation of the LH which will result in desensitization of the LH and testies?
    The whole desensitization thing is another debate in itself. Anyways, no worries, I've been on it for almost 3 years straight, still going strong! I worked with a very reputable HRT doctor in the past that had patients on HCG monotherapy since the 90's, and they're still going strong. If you think about it, all HCG does is mimic LH, the same LH that would instead be generated by the HPTA. Have you ever heard of any teenagers or young adults getting desensitized when their testosterone levels are through the ceiling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    The whole desensitization thing is another debate in itself. Anyways, no worries, I've been on it for almost 3 years straight, still going strong! I worked with a very reputable HRT doctor in the past that had patients on HCG monotherapy since the 90's, and they're still going strong. If you think about it, all HCG does is mimic LH, the same LH that would instead be generated by the HPTA. Have you ever heard of any teenagers or young adults getting desensitized when their testosterone levels are through the ceiling?
    No I have not
    Is there any difference btw a andropause shutdown of the HTPA and a drug induced shutdown from steroids (cycles)? Also if a person can run a successful cycle and a agressive PCT after using gear and get his body working again producing natural test, how come a HRT patient cannot undergo the same agressive treatment style (PCT) as a cycling person and restore there own HTPA to proper function so they dont have to stay on HRT forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razor View Post
    No I have not
    Is there any difference btw a andropause shutdown of the HTPA and a drug induced shutdown from steroids (cycles)? Also if a person can run a successful cycle and a agressive PCT after using gear and get his body working again producing natural test, how come a HRT patient cannot undergo the same agressive treatment style (PCT) as a cycling person and restore there own HTPA to proper function so they dont have to stay on HRT forever.
    Well, essentially a shutdown is a shutdown, whether induced by AAS usage or just andropause, which is the equivalent to females and menopause.

    Here's the deal, when you're younger with a healthy HPTA, you can go for "x" period of time with suppressing the HPTA, and usually have a fairly high percentile with restarting it backup by running a PCT. As you know, the longer you wait, the greater chance your HPTA will stay in the shutdown mode.

    It's a little different though with aging. Axis suppression is just nature's way of preparing the body for older age. The body is genetically coded to go through various stages in life. For thousands of years, we have been structured to procreate when we are at a younger; possibly more healthier stage of our life. This is true in both males and females. Unfortunately, when the biological clock tells the HPTA that it's time to wind it down, it's probably going to be ineffective to try and run any PCT.

    However, we are living in the greatest time of mankind as we know, as science has found a way to manipulate this process by utilization of exogenous compounds and bio identical hormones. So, we're kind of the guinea pigs in this generation to see just how far (or not so far) this will take us. Death is inevitable, but, theoretically we should be able to add some substantial years to the average lifespan, and we should be able to also enhance the quality of life we experience in the later years.

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    Razor, as mentioned by Kelkel and others, we have some amazing stickies here. I would like you to take a few hours to review them thoroughly for us. Like any training, it all starts somewhere. Top to bottom, are you up for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    Razor, as mentioned by Kelkel and others, we have some amazing stickies here. I would like you to take a few hours to review them thoroughly for us. Like any training, it all starts somewhere. Top to bottom, are you up for it?
    Yes I will start right now. Sorry for all the questions..could you just answer that one last question in my last post..thank you so much

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    And yes, agreed, if it's not broken then don't fix it!

    Study like you're trying to get into Harvard, man!

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