Atomini's all-you-need-to-know about TREN and how to use it effectively thread!

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1.) Adding tren to a end of a blast for 6-8 weeks but using the tren ace with long estered test and dht is there anything wrong with this? i know that i will have to shoot the tren ace more often, but tren sides are hit and miss for me so if i need to come off, i need to in 3 days not 2 weeks. I doubt ill need more then 300mg a week with a gram of test and 600 mast?

what are your throughts and experince with this? i just wanna further my body recomp while "on" just before the end of my blast.

2.) i guess another question is what would be teh minimum weeks id wanna run tren ace just to see some fat loss ive only used it for 8+ weeks, not sure if 6 or even 4 weeks is enough.

3.) Do i need to front load the first shot?

[Atomini]

1.) Adding tren to a end of a blast for 6-8 weeks but using the tren ace with long estered test and dht is there anything wrong with this? i know that i will have to shoot the tren ace more often, but tren sides are hit and miss for me so if i need to come off, i need to in 3 days not 2 weeks. I doubt ill need more then 300mg a week with a gram of test and 600 mast?

what are your throughts and experince with this? i just wanna further my body recomp while "on" just before the end of my blast.

2.) i guess another question is what would be teh minimum weeks id wanna run tren ace just to see some fat loss ive only used it for 8+ weeks, not sure if 6 or even 4 weeks is enough.

3.) Do i need to front load the first shot?

1: I don't see anything wrong with that, provided blood levels from the long estered test are nice and peaked by the time you get the tren in there.

2: The decision to use tren should not be based on fat loss. I personally have not seen dramatic fat loss on tren. Do I look harder? Yes. Do I look leaner? Yes. Leaner on-cycle than most other AAS i've run? Oh hell yes. But have I ever seen the fat just melt off my body while on tren? Nope. Tren, from my experience, does not provide dramatic fat loss. It will help push things a little further in a cutting/caloric deficit situation, but it isn't going to do what T3, Clen, HGH, etc. do for fat loss. And from the experience I do have from tren's fat loss abilities, it would occur to me that the effects are seen over the long term. Meaning, a 4 week cycle of tren will not yield you any fat loss to write home about (at all).

3: Frontloading is personal preference. No real need to, but its up to you if you want to get blood levels peaked quicker. I have never done this with tren, simply because its nearly impossible with Tren Ace. If i'm using 200mg EOD (as I am doing right now), then that means I am using 2ml of tren per injection EOD (assuming my tren is of the 100mg/ml concentration). Now, if I frontload my first shot (or 2), i'd need to shoot 400mg of tren... that's 4ml. No thanks! Don't really need that with short esters anyways.

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1: I don't see anything wrong with that, provided blood levels from the long estered test are nice and peaked by the time you get the tren in there.

2: The decision to use tren should not be based on fat loss. I personally have not seen dramatic fat loss on tren. Do I look harder? Yes. Do I look leaner? Yes. Leaner on-cycle than most other AAS i've run? Oh hell yes. But have I ever seen the fat just melt off my body while on tren? Nope. Tren, from my experience, does not provide dramatic fat loss. It will help push things a little further in a cutting/caloric deficit situation, but it isn't going to do what T3, Clen, HGH, etc. do for fat loss. And from the experience I do have from tren's fat loss abilities, it would occur to me that the effects are seen over the long term. Meaning, a 4 week cycle of tren will not yield you any fat loss to write home about (at all).

3: Frontloading is personal preference. No real need to, but its up to you if you want to get blood levels peaked quicker. I have never done this with tren, simply because its nearly impossible with Tren Ace. If i'm using 200mg EOD (as I am doing right now), then that means I am using 2ml of tren per injection EOD (assuming my tren is of the 100mg/ml concentration). Now, if I frontload my first shot (or 2), i'd need to shoot 400mg of tren... that's 4ml. No thanks! Don't really need that with short esters anyways.

cheers mate you just confirmed what i already knew . yeah i worded that wrong i meant to say the leanness that comes with tren and that harder look. I know its not a magic fat loss drug. It has a nice look when you are on it,

another question, i get very red in the face on tren, is there a reason this happens or i can combat it?

thanks for your hard work mate, i read you had some stuff happen? im not sure what it is but hope everything works out for you. You seem like a solid guy, genuine people are hard to come across these days.

[Atomini]

cheers mate you just confirmed what i already knew . yeah i worded that wrong i meant to say the leanness that comes with tren and that harder look. I know its not a magic fat loss drug. It has a nice look when you are on it,

another question, i get very red in the face on tren, is there a reason this happens or i can combat it?

thanks for your hard work mate, i read you had some stuff happen? im not sure what it is but hope everything works out for you. You seem like a solid guy, genuine people are hard to come across these days.

Check your blood pressure! Redness in the face or your body in general is usually a sign of high blood pressure. I actually had this on my very first cycle ever (test E for 10 weeks at 300mg/week, frontloaded with 1000mg the first week). I looked like a lobster. Well, it wasn't that bad but it was visibly different than before I started. I was a moron and didn't check blood pressure though. Even if your skin isn't red, keep track of blood pressure. There's a reason why they call it the silent killer.

I don't like to flaunt my personal life around, but see here if you are curious as to what's been going on with me lately and why I haven't been posting as much http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ce-advice-here...

I had planned on typing up another article for the forum about a week and a half ago, I wanted to get it done soon after and then I was hit with a ton of personal issues to deal with. Next week I think will be my climb back up again.