Am I to overweight to run a cycle? Pics and Stats inside.

[Metalject]

you need to trim up some naturally,and wait a couple of years before running a cycle bud.

Why? Based on the information I provided the risk to reward ratio would be far in favor of reward.
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All I see is a bunch of people parroting a bf% with no actual basis to support the claim

[ghettoboyd]

Why? Based on the information I provided the risk to reward ratio would be far in favor of reward.
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All I see is a bunch of people parroting a bf% with no actual basis to support the claim

in all honesty bro shouldent the op at least look like he lifts weights?...he looks to me to have gyno of some sort unless thats just fat i dont know...id be weary of a cycle in his condition regardless of weather or not it is, but i would be concerned if i where him cus once it develops to a certain degree there may be no turning back...i think you giving him the thumbs up is of poor taste...

[Metalject]

in all honesty bro shouldent the op at least look like he lifts weights?...he looks to me to have gyno of some sort unless thats just fat i dont know...id be weary of a cycle in his condition regardless of weather or not it is, but i would be concerned if i where him cus once it develops to a certain degree there may be no turning back...i think you giving him the thumbs up is of poor taste...

I wasn't telling this guy to use any steroids, my argument has simply been based on the body fat comments so many tend to make on message boards when it comes to actual use and side effects. I also agree, a 19yr old shouldn't use steroids...it will be better for his health in the long run if he waits.

Ive seen so many guy over the years make such dramatic improvements in not only their physique but in their overall well-being with a little test...TRT doses and slightly above. Many of these guys were not what anyone on here would consider avid about training. However, many become avid and tend to live a healthier lifestyle once they start. I've witnessed plenty of guys who were just average, higher than desirable body fat (not obese) who when they used 200mg, 300mg or even 400mg of testosterone per week saw their lives continually improved without any complications in spite of what messages boards often preach. Definitely despite what popular culture often preaches.

Last thing, I didn't tell the guy "yes, use steroids." I simply answered his question and from there responded to the proceeding comments of others. Personally, I'd like to see more answers given on message boards that actually directly answer questions on the basis of the actual question rather than berating people with side comments based on their stats while not answering the questions at hand at all. This is not encouraging irresponsible use by any means, but rather informing and helping people understand what these hormones can actually do. That's how people learn IMO.

[kmms]

I wasn't telling this guy to use any steroids, my argument has simply been based on the body fat comments so many tend to make on message boards when it comes to actual use and side effects. I also agree, a 19yr old shouldn't use steroids...it will be better for his health in the long run if he waits.

Ive seen so many guy over the years make such dramatic improvements in not only their physique but in their overall well-being with a little test...TRT doses and slightly above. Many of these guys were not what anyone on here would consider avid about training. However, many become avid and tend to live a healthier lifestyle once they start. I've witnessed plenty of guys who were just average, higher than desirable body fat (not obese) who when they used 200mg, 300mg or even 400mg of testosterone per week saw their lives continually improved without any complications in spite of what messages boards often preach. Definitely despite what popular culture often preaches.

Last thing, I didn't tell the guy "yes, use steroids." I simply answered his question and from there responded to the proceeding comments of others. Personally, I'd like to see more answers given on message boards that actually directly answer questions on the basis of the actual question rather than berating people with side comments based on their stats while not answering the questions at hand at all. This is not encouraging irresponsible use by any means, but rather informing and helping people understand what these hormones can actually do. That's how people learn IMO.

solid advice. well reasoned and logical.

[Rwy]

Everyones body is different and thats what it really comes down to. Sides are sides for people at all different bf%.

I just started my trt but before I did I ran test for 16 weeks at 500mg ran hgh that varied between 2-4 ius for 4 months ( generics so who knows and still going) and ran var at 60mg for 8 weeks. I am now down to 16% body fat and have had zero sides. Ran hcg and ai alos but I started all of this at 26% body fat.


I have a buddy that started trt that was def 30% bf with a dr that didnt give him and ai and after 3-4 trt shots his estrogen went through the freaking roof and became super emotional. Everyones different

[Lunk1]

[QUOTE=Metalject;6131315]Why? Based on the information I provided the risk to reward ratio would be far in favor of reward.
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All I see is a bunch of people parroting a bf% with no actual basis to support the claim[/QUOT]


In THIS case it has less to do with his BF and more to do with his level of dedication. If you are fat and don't diet or workout you will stay fat or get even fatter. Use fo AAS without diet and workout will only increase the fat gain and risk of sides.

[songdog]

Bonaparte hit the nail on the head.