Chinese HGH concerns

[DanB]

I can categorically state that Ankie are selling fakes/copies. Now you can all try and convince yourself you have real gh from them but the kits they are currently selling to the public are fake/copies without doubt.

Ive tried convincing myself I have real gh yrs ago with generics but I wont be spending and wasting anymore money with Ankie. If your happy with them then by all means you carry on but I know they are selling fakes and so does Ronnie.

Ive also had another complaint this week about them which isn't good and the ones what Ive recently started are not gh its something else, I will update once Ive been using them for a bit longer but I just know they are not gh.

I can also say the copies pf anansome what some Chinese company are selling are coming from Ankie, the boxes are exactly the same and the money gets transfered to the same area and bank. I am afraid to say that they have gone back to scamming the public. Just read into the emails Nancy replies to Ronnie with its obvious she knows and she knows she's been caught, wouldn't surprise me if she goes missing and a new contact appears for the sales to the public.

every single kit?

i feel alot of experienced gh users would disagree if you claim that

ie1 aka nancy is not their only rep

[EasyDoesIt]

I can categorically state that Ankie are selling fakes/copies. Now you can all try and convince yourself you have real gh from them but the kits they are currently selling to the public are fake/copies without doubt.

Ive tried convincing myself I have real gh yrs ago with generics but I wont be spending and wasting anymore money with Ankie. If your happy with them then by all means you carry on but I know they are selling fakes and so does Ronnie.

Ive also had another complaint this week about them which isn't good and the ones what Ive recently started are not gh its something else, I will update once Ive been using them for a bit longer but I just know they are not gh.

I can also say the copies pf anansome what some Chinese company are selling are coming from Ankie, the boxes are exactly the same and the money gets transfered to the same area and bank. I am afraid to say that they have gone back to scamming the public. Just read into the emails Nancy replies to Ronnie with its obvious she knows and she knows she's been caught, wouldn't surprise me if she goes missing and a new contact appears for the sales to the public.

Marcus: seems to me you have done everything you can to let everyone on this site know about this. People want something so bad they will keep trying to justify or prove to themselves it's good. It's kind of like saying your wife or girlfriend is cheating, now it's your move. It's to much money and risk at possible danger to what's going in your body to risk it. We are all here to learn, exchange info and share personal knowledge. I'm a novice at this game, but then when I speak with people I know at the gym it seems like I'm a genius compared to them. Lol - That's just from what I have learned from you guys. That just tells me how many people are careless about what they put in there body or even willing to learn when there are sites like this. This may seem like I'm babbling here, but I keep seeing people attempting to prove Ankei is selling quality to general public. There's either a hidden agenda to prove Ankei is good or they just like to argue.

[DanB]

do you think that marcus is the only person on this forum that speaks to anki reps

i know for a fact that there is legit hgh still going out, i cant say every kit is real but nobody can say every single kit is fake either

several members other then myself have also recieved legit kits

how can you bring up adgendas? do you have one to say it is all fake? works both ways

and i have 3 other legit pharm brands available to makes so no different if anki do eventually burn me i still have a source for my gh regardless

[EasyDoesIt]

do you think that marcus is the only person on this forum that speaks to anki reps

i know for a fact that there is legit hgh still going out, i cant say every kit is real but nobody can say every single kit is fake either

several members other then myself have also recieved legit kits

how can you bring up adgendas? do you have one to say it is all fake? works both ways

and i have 3 other legit pharm brands available to makes so no different if anki do eventually burn me i still have a source for my gh regardless

I saw your post about Nancy not being the only rep after my post. Up to this point her name is the only one that has come up that I have seen, but there's a lot of posts and I probably missed seeing others. Guess that makes it more complicated. Then Ankei has internal issues or is part of her situation ?

[BigBadWolf]

I can categorically state that Ankie are selling fakes/copies. Now you can all try and convince yourself you have real gh from them but the kits they are currently selling to the public are fake/copies without doubt.

Ive tried convincing myself I have real gh yrs ago with generics but I wont be spending and wasting anymore money with Ankie. If your happy with them then by all means you carry on but I know they are selling fakes and so does Ronnie.

Ive also had another complaint this week about them which isn't good and the ones what Ive recently started are not gh its something else, I will update once Ive been using them for a bit longer but I just know they are not gh.

I can also say the copies pf anansome what some Chinese company are selling are coming from Ankie, the boxes are exactly the same and the money gets transfered to the same area and bank. I am afraid to say that they have gone back to scamming the public. Just read into the emails Nancy replies to Ronnie with its obvious she knows and she knows she's been caught, wouldn't surprise me if she goes missing and a new contact appears for the sales to the public.

Trust me I believe you. I will not be ordering from them. Unless things chance and I hear it from you. I also believe that others that are taking a stand against you are A) trying to convince theirselves they got real gh or B) don't want to lose money reshipping to us here in the US.

[marcus300]

Trust me I believe you. I will not be ordering from them. Unless things chance and I hear it from you. I also believe that others that are taking a stand against you are A) trying to convince theirselves they got real gh or B) don't want to lose money reshipping to us here in the US.

Exactly, I use to convince myself about generics for years lol. Once they start selling fakes and copies I won't trust then again. Not a chance will they have my money again , I've lost faith totally but what do you expect from China anyway.

[marcus300]

every single kit?

i feel alot of experienced gh users would disagree if you claim that

ie1 aka nancy is not their only rep

Thet selling fakes and copies, if people want to carry on playing roulette weather they get real or fake that's up to them.

I know there are more reps for the public sales lol

[EasyDoesIt]

Thet selling fakes and copies, if people want to carry on playing roulette weather they get real or fake that's up to them.

I know there are more reps for the public sales lol

That's the way I have always felt, not risking it. Spent $ in the past, while I'm telling the guy that I bought it from that it's crap, he's telling me everybody loves it. Of course he is because he's sitting on a ton of the crap.
Re: reps, Yes I understand the independent sales reps. Lol

[swithuk]

i have to say ive been running it for about 25 days now (direct from nancy) . at 5i.u e.d and now 6i.u e.d . ive not really noticed anything . certainly no sides at all !

i do feel more positive and abit more energy and some water retention so id say theres something in there but it could be placebo

is there anyway nancy is doing this without anke knowing ? if as you say she may move on ? any value in approaching another rep ? or does she run the department ?

this forum is the reason i went with ansomone so id be a fool if i continued . it puts me in a very difficult position

[swithuk]

do you think that marcus is the only person on this forum that speaks to anki reps

i know for a fact that there is legit hgh still going out, i cant say every kit is real but nobody can say every single kit is fake either

several members other then myself have also recieved legit kits

how can you bring up adgendas? do you have one to say it is all fake? works both ways

and i have 3 other legit pharm brands available to makes so no different if anki do eventually burn me i still have a source for my gh regardless

i know what your saying
im buying from her as well and im not noticing much after 25 days (i know its not long )
do you think theres any value in approaching the other reps there ?

for me if they are selectively scamming then it changes my opinion of the whole company . seems crazy they would do this as its bad for business but how else can you explain similar experiences/results of credible people ?

are you going to change brands as a result of this ? would you move to gensci ?

[BigBadWolf]

Why anyone would continue placing orders with a company they believe at best is selective scamming people is beyond me.

[gixxerboy1]

i know what your saying
im buying from her as well and im not noticing much after 25 days (i know its not long )
do you think theres any value in approaching the other reps there ?

for me if they are selectively scamming then it changes my opinion of the whole company . seems crazy they would do this as its bad for business but how else can you explain similar experiences/results of credible people ? select scamming is the easiest way to make $$. For every 1 person who claims its bad 10 will say it great. Also if you receive 10 kits and 2 are junk how would you ever know or tell

are you going to change brands as a result of this ? would you move to gensci ?gensci's are very hard to get

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[swithuk]

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thanks
yes your right . im still coming to terms with it i guess . its a hard pill to swallow even so ! although following that logic it is bad for business long term as ultimately people will switch

its weird though as i do feel something for sure .abit more positive , abit more energy and abit of water retention - thats it . but at 6i.u a day i should be feeling alot more

yes i know its hard to get hold of . but im based in u.k so its easier and i dont have any options

[Swifto]

thanks
yes your right . im still coming to terms with it i guess . its a hard pill to swallow even so ! although following that logic it is bad for business long term as ultimately people will switch

its weird though as i do feel something for sure .abit more positive , abit more energy and abit of water retention - thats it . but at 6i.u a day i should be feeling alot more

yes i know its hard to get hold of . but im based in u.k so its easier and i dont have any options

Did you order direct from the factory (Nancy)?

[swithuk]

Did you order direct from the factory (Nancy)?

thanks

yeah 100% direct from nancy

[BigBadWolf]

thanks
yes your right . im still coming to terms with it i guess . its a hard pill to swallow even so ! although following that logic it is bad for business long term as ultimately people will switch

its weird though as i do feel something for sure .abit more positive , abit more energy and abit of water retention - thats it . but at 6i.u a day i should be feeling alot more

yes i know its hard to get hold of . but im based in u.k so its easier and i dont have any options

Probably some type of a peptide

[Swifto]

thanks

yeah 100% direct from nancy

Have you used Ansomone before from the same source?

What sides, if any, do you have?

[Sgt. Hartman]

is there anyway nancy is doing this without anke knowing ?

Highly doubtful. Payment for their GH is still being wired to the same bank with the same acct # that it always has.

[swithuk]

Have you used Ansomone before from the same source?

What sides, if any, do you have?

no, ive not used ansomone before . been running it about 25 days 6i.u e.d
ive not used g.h for about 4 years

no sides at all -but i feel abit more positive , abit more energy and abit of water retention -

[swithuk]

Highly doubtful. Payment for their GH is still being wired to the same bank with the same acct # that it always has.

yes . good point

[Sheven]

Highly doubtful. Payment for their GH is still being wired to the same bank with the same acct # that it always has.

Right. never a email girls would be able to pull anything off without the support of a manager

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have ecieved more kits recently and they g2g, I think its a little far to say they selling fakes, to some people yes it is possible

But to everybody, no they are not

Well, if they are selling fakes to some people then then they are selling fakes- period! Some of what people are getting is not good due to either the environment it's being shipped or a selective scamming ring. I know that another moderator on this board told me that he recently got bad 4iu and 6iu vials of ansomone but the 10ml vials he used were good. Is that not odd? He asked if maybe the 4 and 6 iu vials were being made for bodybuilders and the 10 iu vials for their local hospitals/doctors offices. My response to his question was no because the good ones I got first time around came in 4iu vials. The bad ones I tried recently were both 4iu vials and 6 iu vials. So, I do not believe they are making 10 iu vials specifically for doctors/hospital then selling 4 and 6iu vials to bodybuilders. Although on my last order I asked specifically that all my vials be 6iu and they came in both 4 and 6iu vials and it was the 4iu vials that would not mix and both were shipped at the same time in the same environment. I found that whole ordeal odd along with being ignored repeatedly by ankebio about the issues I was having! Ankebio has finally offer to replace my order but the weather is still hot so I see no point until it cools down if heat could in fact destroy it because why would it not happen again? What a mess!

NOTE: There is only one contact (Nancy) and their sales reps on various boards are purchasing from Nancy as well just like everyone else and then re-selling it on the black market for a nice profit. Nancy may be more than one person but it's still the same bank account your money must be transferred to and they will not ship directly to the U.S.

[swithuk]

the vials im suspicious of are also 10i.u and i agree, if they are selling fakes it does not matter how small an amount it is

i still hope that it is some sort of production or quality control problem that has been resolved

i agree with you about nancy being the head of their department as i tried a couple of their other email addresses (not the sales ones ) and i got an angry/frustrated email back from her straight away , see below....

As there so lots of FAKE HGH and FAKE ANSOMONE, even FAKE AnkeBio on internets, we AnkeBio only guarantee our ANSOMONE/HGH with best quality to those who make orders directly from us. Thanks! Regards, Nancy

[Ronnie Rowland]

the vials im suspicious of are also 10i.u and i agree, if they are selling fakes it does not matter how small an amount it is

i still hope that it is some sort of production or quality control problem that has been resolved

i agree with you about nancy being the head of their department as i tried a couple of their other email addresses (not the sales ones ) and i got an angry/frustrated email back from her straight away , see below....

As there so lots of FAKE HGH and FAKE ANSOMONE, even FAKE AnkeBio on internets, we AnkeBio only guarantee our ANSOMONE/HGH with best quality to those who make orders directly from us. Thanks! Regards, Nancy

I wonder if the blatant counterfeit ansomone that has fake flip offs, serial numbers, etc are being sold for the same price to sales reps as the ones that look authenic according to the AnkeBio website?

[EasyDoesIt]

Well, if they are selling fakes to some people then then they are selling fakes- period! Some of what people are getting is not good due to either the environment it's being shipped or a selective scamming ring. I know that another moderator on this board told me that he recently got bad 4iu and 6iu vials of ansomone but the 10ml vials he used were good. Is that not odd? He asked if maybe the 4 and 6 iu vials were being made for bodybuilders and the 10 iu vials for their local hospitals/doctors offices. My response to his question was no because the good ones I got first time around came in 4iu vials. The bad ones I tried recently were both 4iu vials and 6 iu vials. So, I do not believe they are making 10 iu vials specifically for doctors/hospital then selling 4 and 6iu vials to bodybuilders. Although on my last order I asked specifically that all my vials be 6iu and they came in both 4 and 6iu vials and it was the 4iu vials that would not mix and both were shipped at the same time in the same environment. I found that whole ordeal odd along with being ignored repeatedly by ankebio about the issues I was having! Ankebio has finally offer to replace my order but the weather is still hot so I see no point until it cools down if heat could in fact destroy it because why would it not happen again? What a mess!

NOTE: There is only one contact (Nancy) and their sales reps on various boards are purchasing from Nancy as well just like everyone else and then re-selling it on the black market for a nice profit. Nancy may be more than one person but it's still the same bank account your money must be transferred to and they will not ship directly to the U.S.

Thanks for clearing that up regarding Nancy.

[marcus300]

I wonder if the blatant counterfeit ansomone that has fake flip offs, serial numbers, etc are being sold for the same price to sales reps as the ones that look authenic according to the AnkeBio website?

The fake ankie site are selling identical Anasome, same box, same leaflet and same bottles. The money is sent to the same bank same area. The fakes are coming out of ankie they are too good not to be and to many circumstances.

Why would ankie a professional company ignore various emails saying the gh is bunk, why only after threatening to plaster this information over the bb forums does she answer back? No professional outfit would ignore email they would standby the product 100% .

They selectively scamming the public , I just hope some of mine are real and not all are bunk....

[swithuk]

sorry if im being naive but ...

isnt there something everyone can do collectively (apart from not buying their product ) . club together to pay for a definitive lab test that can be made public ? put out the info on the internet and to relevant press ? as well as all the boards / forums ? someone puts an email stating the facts of what they are doing that everyone sends in volume to all ankebio emails, their competitors etc . - an organised response as opposed to a large number of individuals complaining

so they dont get away with it and stop doing it -

[marcus300]

sorry if im being naive but ...

isnt there something everyone can do collectively (apart from not buying their product ) . club together to pay for a definitive lab test that can be made public ? put out the info on the internet and to relevant press ? as well as all the boards / forums ? someone puts an email stating the facts of what they are doing that everyone sends in volume to all ankebio emails, their competitors etc . - an organised response as opposed to a large number of individuals complaining

so they dont get away with it and stop doing it -

Wasn't there a new member from another board who recently posted his bloodwork showing his Anasome were fake?

You can test if the hormone is active that's the problem which they know all about. Best bet go off results don't run anything else except gh and watch for results etc

[dec11]

bloody hell, and the HGH minefield gets deeper lol. i'll be starting back on the greek stuff i was on 2yrs ago, it seemed fine but dunno where to turn once it runs out

[DanB]

NOTE: There is only one contact (Nancy) and their sales reps on various boards are purchasing from Nancy as well just like everyone else and then re-selling it on the black market for a nice profit. Nancy may be more than one person but it's still the same bank account your money must be transferred to and they will not ship directly to the U.S.

Jerry, and at least 2 other ie'' email addys for reps that I am aware of, not including Nancy

[BigBadWolf]

Jerry, and at least 2 other ie'' email addys for reps that I am aware of, not including Nancy

Jerry and nancy don't sound like chinese names to me. Lol

[marcus300]

Lmfao

[DanB]

Jerry and nancy don't sound like chinese names to me. Lol

haha their surname is a little more along the lines of what you would expect

[Sgt. Hartman]

Jerry and nancy don't sound like chinese names to me. Lol

Lmao. I think the only names chinese women have are Anne, Nancy, Kristy, Jane, and Linda.

[EasyDoesIt]

They were probably imported from U.S. just to communicate with all those independent reps. There called Buffers, like in the Godfather movie, we got a lot of buffers. I guess a little comedy lightens up the whole mess. But not really for those that have $$ in.

[Far from massive]

Remember the story a while back where the Chinese were having the women clean I phone screens with Ethyl Acetate (without gloves or respirators no less) and they were dropping like flies with total liver shutdown.... when one would drop they would just get another one to take her place. They were replacing them like nascar racers replace tires by the time the story broke they had 67 known to be hospitalyzed with liver failure and 7 dead who knows how many there really were that were never accounted for. If not for the story breaking they would still be doing it today, they knew damn well that Ethyl Acetate is extremly toxic but they also knew it worked really well to clean screens and there were plenty of "Linda's" and "Jane's" to fill the empty seats.

[BigBadWolf]

Remember the story a while back where the Chinese were having the women clean I phone screens with Ethyl Acetate (without gloves or respirators no less) and they were dropping like flies with total liver shutdown.... when one would drop they would just get another one to take her place. They were replacing them like nascar racers replace tires by the time the story broke they had 67 known to be hospitalyzed with liver failure and 7 dead who knows how many there really were that were never accounted for. If not for the story breaking they would still be doing it today, they knew damn well that Ethyl Acetate is extremly toxic but they also knew it worked really well to clean screens and there were plenty of "Linda's" and "Jane's" to fill the empty seats.

And Jerry's.

[EasyDoesIt]

Remember the story a while back where the Chinese were having the women clean I phone screens with Ethyl Acetate (without gloves or respirators no less) and they were dropping like flies with total liver shutdown.... when one would drop they would just get another one to take her place. They were replacing them like nascar racers replace tires by the time the story broke they had 67 known to be hospitalyzed with liver failure and 7 dead who knows how many there really were that were never accounted for. If not for the story breaking they would still be doing it today, they knew damn well that Ethyl Acetate is extremly toxic but they also knew it worked really well to clean screens and there were plenty of "Linda's" and "Jane's" to fill the empty seats.

That's very sad to hear, which shows you that the ones that consider themselves "Elite" have a slavery mentality. I do not want anyone here to be offended because I'm sure there are people on this forum that are of Asian heritage, as there are bad apples in every culture. My heritage has plenty so I'm not trying to speak harshly on Chinese because I have Chinese friends that are great people. This is probably more info than I should share being on a forum that I like to keep my profile anonymous. I have worked in an industry where I dealt with a lot of Asian Strippers and no they do not get my money, I get there's, but the Asian women and not just Chinese, but Fillipina, Japanese etc. are all pretty ruthless and I can say from watching them operate that "Money is there GOD" and to a point that they can't just do the deal and collect there overpriced service, but fuc...g people over in the process seems to be a necessity to make them feel like they just had one up on the customer!!!!!!!!
There's my 2 cents..

[swithuk]

That's very sad to hear, which shows you that the ones that consider themselves "Elite" have a slavery mentality. I do not want anyone here to be offended because I'm sure there are people on this forum that are of Asian heritage, as there are bad apples in every culture. My heritage has plenty so I'm not trying to speak harshly on Chinese because I have Chinese friends that are great people. This is probably more info than I should share being on a forum that I like to keep my profile anonymous. I have worked in an industry where I dealt with a lot of Asian Strippers and no they do not get my money, I get there's, but the Asian women and not just Chinese, but Fillipina, Japanese etc. are all pretty ruthless and I can say from watching them operate that "Money is there GOD" and to a point that they can't just do the deal and collect there overpriced service, but fuc...g people over in the process seems to be a necessity to make them feel like they just had one up on the customer!!!!!!!!
There's my 2 cents..

i wish i had your job !

[swithuk]

received this explanation.......

First, all the ANSOMONE form us AnkeBio are manufactured in the same production lines, and all the products should be tested by more than 50 examinations in our Quality Control Center. Only qualified to all the specifications, we can release them and sell them. There is no reason and necessary for us to offer some real and some fake.

Regarding to the posts on some boards, we have done some research and talked with some people. We can give the following declaration and explanation:

1st. case:
As the inner and outer packing of FAKE ANSOMONE are very similar to our real origianl products, some users could not idenfity which is FAKE and REAL, so they claimed after using FAKE one.
We have purchased some FAKE ANSOMONE on internet, and after testing them in our Test Cencer, we confirm that there is nothing in them even some harmful chemical ingredients found. So when people use these FAKE ANSOMONE, they will feel something wrong, but they did not notice these are FAKE

2nd. case:
Few people on boards said that there was nothing in our ANSOMONE, it is not the truth.
Because we have communicated with them and re-tested in our side, and found that they did not trans-ship and store products in good way. As you know, HGH is a kind of high bio-activity product, which must be away from light and heat resource such as sunlight or hot engines especally in Summer. Unfortnately, they did not notice that, which made HGH bio-activity decreased even destroyed. That is reason why some so good, some not so good.

3rd. case:
As we know, the blood test after HGH injection could check HGH direct effection, which is normal way but not unique way. If there is change in blood test, it shows that you are sensitive to this HGH (vial/batch); if there is no obvious change in blood test, it does not mean the HGH is FAKE, and it only shows that you are not sensitive to this HGH (vial/batch) at that time. The sensitive state of the body varis from time to time. For example, in the same cold weather, sometime we feel well, but sometimes we will be Susceptible to colds.

The blood test only shows pharmacodynamic, not shows efficacy.

Hope these information is helpful for you!

Thank you for your time!

Regards,
Yours Sincerely,
Nancy