Gremos .completly agree my friend im not fresh of the shelf the bb basics i no r eat sleep train hard and right im doing all three i no all about esters i failed to mension i took dbol with my old courses.if they take a minit to look leangain200 up along with turanastan and all in 1 pct mayb theyl think other wise.like i say pal im not trying to b funny but againe the diet im not going in no show so i dnt care how long it takes for me to feel im at a point i want to b we bbs never do .im not stupid pal iv made mistakes i agree but nok a man for tryin i say ther all these guys on here that say they train but ther pics say a differant story but get all the advice n more .mayb its me lol