3rd cycle help CUTTER

[christian123]

I use .5 mg ed on the Prami because I don't like the sides. I also do vitamin B1, B6, B12 while doing Tren. With Tren E I don't even use the Prami, just the injectable B's ed.

That said, for the 3rd cycle I'd leave the Tren out. I'd do 800 mg Test E/700 mg Masteron E/50 mg Anavar ed if you want to go long (12-15 weeks). If you want to go 8 weeks I'd use Test P or A/Masteron P and leave out the Var. You got the rest of your life for the Tren....

When I first read your cycle I was thinking how your gonna feel in week 14 of 800 mg of Tren A...WOW! I'd feel like killing myself with a small rock hammer!!!

Thanks titan
Masteron is hard to find here but illgive it a try!
I rly wanted tren cause it gives you nice strengh gains apparently!
What are the good sides of masteron?

[The Titan99]

My favorite steroid. It's a great cutting compound, works as an anti-e (all I've ever needed) and is remarkably anabolic. Check it out...

http://www.steroid.com/Masteron.php

[christian123]

My favorite steroid. It's a great cutting compound, works as an anti-e (all I've ever needed) and is remarkably anabolic. Check it out...

http://www.steroid.com/Masteron.php

I just checked it out! But damn man 700mg a week! My source offers 10ml vials of 100mgs/per cc
I dont get how can i manage that? I would need 8383948 vials

[The Titan99]

I just checked it out! But damn man 700mg a week! My source offers 10ml vials of 100mgs/per cc
I dont get how can i manage that? I would need 8383948 vials

What's the Tren A dosed at? I'd guess it's the same. You can definitely run less, but most Prop and Ace esters are dosed at 100 mg/ml where as most E esters are 200 mg/ml. I'd guess your Tren's the same, just more expensive...

[christian123]

What's the Tren A dosed at? I'd guess it's the same. You can definitely run less, but most Prop and Ace esters are dosed at 100 mg/ml where as most E esters are 200 mg/ml. I'd guess your Tren's the same, just more expensive...

Yes Tren A, Mast, Prop are dosed to 100! Tren A and Mast are the same price!
I tho short esters should be ran 8-10 approx

[The Titan99]

Yes Tren A, Mast, Prop are dosed to 100! Tren A and Mast are the same price!
I tho short esters should be ran 8-10 approx

I run Tren A pretty short because the sides suck so much.

[christian123]

I run Tren A pretty short because the sides suck so much.

Then ill go with tren E, and anyways A is hard to find here for some reasons... So my 10-12 weeks should be ok! But cant i run Masteron with Tren E?

[The Titan99]

Then ill go with tren E, and anyways A is hard to find here for some reasons... So my 10-12 weeks should be ok! But cant i run Masteron with Tren E?

You could, but now 3 compounds on 3rd cycle....Plus, you were worried about expense...

[christian123]

You could, but now 3 compounds on 3rd cycle....Plus, you were worried about expense...

Ill give a shout to tren! Ans next cut will be masteron

[christian123]

I was wondering if i use Prami, do i stll need adex?

[christian123]

? ??

[christian123]

bday coming up on the 25!! should i wait or start my cycle? and just have that day to get wasted

[Lunk1]

One day of drinking will not kill you (well it could).

[The Titan99]

If it did I'd be a ninety eight pound weakling.

[Metalject]

If you're trying to diet for a contest, that means you will more than likely need 12-16wks of hard dieting like most guys. Also, if you're going to diet for a contest and use gear, meaning you're not competing in a natural event, none of the dieting should be without gear...that defeats the entire purpose. This also makes an 8wk cycle and done with it relatively useless in this case.

A good plan for a 12wk diet in your case would be a decent dose of testosterone for the first 6-8wks. If you're dieting and using an AI you're not going to hold a bunch of water. More importantly, this will ensure you preserve your muscle mass, which is the most important aspect other than losing the body fat when prepping for a show. Conditioning is obviously the primary factor. From there, you could lower the testosterone dose for the remainder of the cycle. How low will depend on how you look. At this stage you could also add in other compounds. I don't see a moderate dose of Trenbolone hurting anything...50-75mg/eod of Tren-a the last 6-8wks when you're already lean would make a big difference. A moderate dose of Winny or Anavar could also be considered, but by no means a must.

[The Titan99]

If you're trying to diet for a contest, that means you will more than likely need 12-16wks of hard dieting like most guys. Also, if you're going to diet for a contest and use gear, meaning you're not competing in a natural event, none of the dieting should be without gear...that defeats the entire purpose. This also makes an 8wk cycle and done with it relatively useless in this case.

A good plan for a 12wk diet in your case would be a decent dose of testosterone for the first 6-8wks. If you're dieting and using an AI you're not going to hold a bunch of water. More importantly, this will ensure you preserve your muscle mass, which is the most important aspect other than losing the body fat when prepping for a show. Conditioning is obviously the primary factor. From there, you could lower the testosterone dose for the remainder of the cycle. How low will depend on how you look. At this stage you could also add in other compounds. I don't see a moderate dose of Trenbolone hurting anything...50-75mg/eod of Tren-a the last 6-8wks when you're already lean would make a big difference. A moderate dose of Winny or Anavar could also be considered, but by no means a must.

I'm a BIG fan of 400-500 Test Ace/ and equal amounts of Tren A & Masteron P, as much as you can handle for the last 8 weeks. For the first 8 weeks of the 16 I like to use Tren E/Masteron E. Much easier sides, then add in the Tren A/Masteron P till you reach the happy spot. For an oral nothing even comes close to Tbol. Toss in 20 weeks of HGH at 10 i.u.'s ed and now you've got a cutting cycle...

[Metalject]

I'm a BIG fan of 400-500 Test Ace/ and equal amounts of Tren A & Masteron P, as much as you can handle for the last 8 weeks. For the first 8 weeks of the 16 I like to use Tren E/Masteron E. Much easier sides, then add in the Tren A/Masteron P till you reach the happy spot. For an oral nothing even comes close to Tbol. Toss in 20 weeks of HGH at 10 i.u.'s ed and now you've got a cutting cycle...

True, but he sounded like someone looking for something a bit more on the moderate side. Personally, my favorite cutting plan is Test-e or Cyp the and NPP or EQ the first 8wks, Tren-a, Winny and Test-p the last 8wks, Masteron the last 6wks and Anadrol the last 4wks. HGH used the entire time. Total doses vary throughout...Tren increases significantly, starting at 100mg/eod and ending up at 150mg/ed. Test starts out around 250mg/eod the first 12wks, drops to 100mg/eod and then 100mg/wk. Anyway, that's a general overview of what I like without typing a fully life story, lol!

[christian123]

Thanks for the input boys!!
But i couldnt get Tren A so i alreasy got my test e and tren e and enought var for 80mg for 7 weeks.
So ill have to stick to that plan! My diet is perfect im starting gear next week! So im glad to hear that i can drink

If i had tren A i would have done it how u guys sugested it

[Metalject]

Thanks for the input boys!!
But i couldnt get Tren A so i alreasy got my test e and tren e and enought var for 80mg for 7 weeks.
So ill have to stick to that plan! My diet is perfect im starting gear next week! So im glad to hear that i can drink

If i had tren A i would have done it how u guys sugested it

If you're trying to do a show I don't know why you'd want to drink. I can't think of a worse thing you could do during a prep phase.

[christian123]

Sorry forgot to mention that im doing thst for my self ill be competing next year most likely!!!!

[The Titan99]

The problem with the Tren E and Test E is that you'll start seeing gains around week 5-6... See how that sucks? If your doing Test A or P and Tren A I'd start out with .75 ml (525 mg) of Test and .5 ml of Tren ed and see how that goes. That you'll start seeing results in a week.

[christian123]

The problem with the Tren E and Test E is that you'll start seeing gains around week 5-6... See how that sucks? If your doing Test A or P and Tren A I'd start out with .75 ml (525 mg) of Test and .5 ml of Tren ed and see how that goes. That you'll start seeing results in a week.

I feel you bro, but i dont mind starting to see gains so far becausw ill be doing t3/clen for the first 6 weeks then anavar for the last 7weeks

[christian123]

I feel you bro, but i dont mind starting to see gains so far becausw ill be doing t3/clen for the first 6 weeks then anavar for the last 7weeks

And shooting eod is one of my worst fear ahah

[Lunk1]

And shooting eod is one of my worst fear ahah

You had a solid cycle layed out 2 weeks ago...don't second guess it. You can paly the what if I add this game all day long.

[christian123]

You had a solid cycle layed out 2 weeks ago...don't second guess it. You can paly the what if I add this game all day long.

Im not planning on changing bro

[christian123]

Another stupid question...
Does it matter if i start pinning on thursday and then continu on monday, or shkuld i start nxt monday? Also i have to pin one day in the am and the other one in the pm?

[Lunk1]

Another stupid question...
Does it matter if i start pinning on thursday and then continu on monday, or shkuld i start nxt monday? Also i have to pin one day in the am and the other one in the pm?

The idea is to be as close to 3.5 days apart as you can for the most stable levels. Mon/Thur is an example. I am Tues/Fri...why? Cause I got my shit on Tues lol.

As far as the times its not the end all. I do it when I get a free moment. Sometimes am..sometimes pm. Its a standard not a rule

[christian123]

Hey boys i did my second pin yesterday!

No painno cough!

I was just wondering when do the tren e sides usually start @ 400 a week?

[Lunk1]

Hey boys i did my second pin yesterday!

No painno cough!

I was just wondering when do the tren e sides usually start @ 400 a week?

Varies but usually around week 3 or 4 you may notice some. keep in mind that is still a relative low dose and just because one person feels a certain side does not mean another person will

[christian123]

400mg of tren e is a lowdose?!

I tho it was pretty much the standard doseahahaha!!
I know that placebo effect kcked in tho lmao

[Lunk1]

400mg of tren e is a lowdose?!

I tho it was pretty much the standard doseahahaha!!
I know that placebo effect kcked in tho lmao

400 is low for some ppl Its a great start though!

[christian123]

Dont mind **** me now

Ill have to switch to 800 now ahahah jk! Yeshopefully ill like it!
Friends of mine had insane results with 250 a week!

My test e is at 350/w now i might switch that to 700/w later on but idoubt it

[Lunk1]

Dont mind **** me now

Ill have to switch to 800 now ahahah jk! Yeshopefully ill like it!
Friends of mine had insane results with 250 a week!

My test e is at 350/w now i might switch that to 700/w later on but idoubt it

Did you raise your test???I cant remember???
And for real 400 tren is fkn perfect. Dont mess with it

[christian123]

I wanted to do 500m/week.

Then tren god talked to me in one of my dreams (atomini),so i lowerd it to 350,but man i wanna do 700 hahaha

[Lunk1]

I wanted to do 500m/week.

Then tren god talked to me in one of my dreams (atomini),so i lowerd it to 350,but man i wanna do 700 hahaha

A is right. I am the same way...250mg test and 500 tren (may bump to 600 or 700).

I would finish out this run and consider a single compouns test run at 700 later and see what you think. Def NOOOO reason to run test that high on a tren cycle

[christian123]

Ya for sure, but man icant wait to see what tren has to offer me in 3weeks

[Lunk1]

Ya for sure, but man icant wait to see what tren has to offer me in 3weeks

As I said before...I am excited for ya and love the updates!

[christian123]

As I said before...I am excited for ya and love the updates!

You the man

[Lunk1]

You the man

Never know...could be a women and just using that big sexy bastard as my AVI lol

[christian123]

Girl on a 500mg tren cycle:/ that would be fckedup