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And what is that shadow on your left leg? Not that I was looking!!!

better? LOL... LOL..

[Back In Black]

better? LOL... LOL..

Arguably worse, I can most definitely tell you've 'graphed yourself in the nude!

Nice gimp mask though

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Pmsl!

i figd hey what the heck? LOL

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Fasted cardio dun.. Drivin to work

[gonejeepin]

Posting while driving? Keep your eyes on the road ! ..... How's the cut coming along sir?

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Posting while driving? Keep your eyes on the road ! ..... How's the cut coming along sir?

LOL. Short message

Cut is going well. Day 1 of week 2. Down 2 lbs (as expected). Bf% rite at 9%. will prob not end up with much more LBM (if any) than when i started i expect. I may need to run a cycle its lookn like. Well see ..

[RaginCajun]

LOL. Short message

Cut is going well. Day 1 of week 2. Down 2 lbs (as expected). Bf% rite at 9%. will prob not end up with much more LBM (if any) than when i started i expect. I may need to run a cycle its lookn like. Well see ..

what are you thinking of running?

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test only prob 500-600mg per week 8-10 weeks

[milky01623]

test only prob 500-600mg per week 8-10 weeks

Dude your already running test (trt)

[RaginCajun]

test only prob 500-600mg per week 8-10 weeks

how much (mgs) is that over your HRT protocol?

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600mg would be 340mg over TRT. although with the E2 probs im having ive been advised to consider reducing my TRT because my total test stays above 1000 all the time and it may be a contributing factor to excess E2 conversion.

the speculation is if i bring down my total test there will be less conversion to E2 which should make it easier to maintain normal levels. i dont like the idea of reducing it but if it doesnt bring my free test down too much it may be the best thing.

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depletion was BRUTAL once again. if none of yall have ever done it i recommend it! for cutting it works very well and it is by far the hardest thing ive ever had to do physically. i still feel drained right now. it takes everything out of u. depletion is an excellent descriptive term for the workout cuz not only does it deplete muscle glycogen, it also depletes ME totally physically and mentally! coupled with no carbs and no good meal to look forward to until thursday evening it is challenging on every level possible IMO.

[RaginCajun]

depletion was BRUTAL once again. if none of yall have ever done it i recommend it! for cutting it works very well and it is by far the hardest thing ive ever had to do physically. i still feel drained right now. it takes everything out of u. depletion is an excellent descriptive term for the workout cuz not only does it deplete muscle glycogen, it also depletes ME totally physically and mentally! coupled with no carbs and no good meal to look forward to until thursday evening it is challenging on every level possible IMO.

you da man!

[milky01623]

^^^^^^^^^ x2

[GirlyGymRat]

depletion was BRUTAL once again. if none of yall have ever done it i recommend it! for cutting it works very well and it is by far the hardest thing ive ever had to do physically. i still feel drained right now. it takes everything out of u. depletion is an excellent descriptive term for the workout cuz not only does it deplete muscle glycogen, it also depletes ME totally physically and mentally! coupled with no carbs and no good meal to look forward to until thursday evening it is challenging on every level possible IMO.

so u feel it pushes u to a new low?

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so u feel it pushes u to a new low?

hopefully a new low in bf% but this isnt the first time ive done this type cut. actually the 3rd time

[GirlyGymRat]

^^^ yes and then bulk up and then repeat. i been stalking you! LOL
i don't think i am ready for depletion. i feel depleted when i am on my macros after weights and an hour of spin class. totally depleted even tho i ate 4 hours prior.

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^^^ yes and then bulk up and then repeat. i been stalking you! LOL
i don't think i am ready for depletion. i feel depleted when i am on my macros after weights and an hour of spin class. totally depleted even tho i ate 4 hours prior.

LOL

yeh bulking always seems like a good idea when ive been cutting for awhile. i figured out i do not like any fat on me so at times like now i ask myself: "self why did u eat all that food and add on that fat that u now have to lose all over again?"

i think the next time i bulk there will be larger amounts of testosterone running thru my veins it is a lot harder to gain any more LBM at this point. i suppose my desire not to gain a lot of fat does get in the way as well.

as far as u and depletion from the looks of u ur pretty GTG as is i dont know how others do their depletion workouts but the way i do mine is explained in detail in UD2.0 and it is basically 1.5 hrs of gut wrenching pain and nausea and light-headedness followed by 4 meals of chikn or beef and green veggies. this is then repeated again the next day. LOL.. i wouldnt recommend this for u at this point

i on the other hand can never be satisfied.. maintenance is boring. bulking is slow and i put on fat. i do like cutting though. i suppose if i can get to 6%bf maybe ill be happy with that and run maintenance.. (maybe)

i dont do very well without a goal..

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depletion day 2 dun. tired. have to do pm cardio cuz i couldnt drag my lazy butt out of bed this am. no matter on low/no carb days it really doesnt matter cuz i have no glycogen in me anymore anyways..

[digsy1983]

depletion day 2 dun. tired. have to do pm cardio cuz i couldnt drag my lazy butt out of bed this am. no matter on low/no carb days it really doesnt matter cuz i have no glycogen in me anymore anyways..

This is the most depressing post I've read so far from ya 405! I can almost feel your misery!!

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This is the most depressing post I've read so far from ya 405! I can almost feel your misery!!

LOL, thx man

[eazyduzit]

i feel ur pain 405! just did my 2nd day depletion! I've never felt so drained after a workout! I cant be bothered breathing! lol. Keep at it man im gonna watch this thread see how u go

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Thx eaZy.

Am fasted cardio done. Nutn left to do today. Except stay on diet.

[GirlyGymRat]

^^^

[GirlyGymRat]

[QUOTE=--->>405<<---;6165726]LOL

yeh bulking always seems like a good idea when ive been cutting for awhile. i figured out i do not like any fat on me so at times like now i ask myself: "self why did u eat all that food and add on that fat that u now have to lose all over again?"

as far as u and depletion from the looks of u ur pretty GTG as is i dont know how others do their depletion workouts but the way i do mine is explained in detail in UD2.0 and it is basically 1.5 hrs of gut wrenching pain and nausea and light-headedness followed by 4 meals of chikn or beef and green veggies. this is then repeated again the next day. LOL.. i wouldnt recommend this for u at this point

i on the other hand can never be satisfied.. maintenance is boring. bulking is slow and i put on fat. i do like cutting though. i suppose if i can get to 6%bf maybe ill be happy with that and run maintenance.. (maybe)

i dont do very well without a goal..[/QUOTE]

i feel like you r a long lost brother cuz i feel the same way however my bulks are unintentional and limited to 5 pounds. : )

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i had an unintentional bulk the last time GGR!

well tomorrow is carb load day in the pm again! yay!

2 more weeks of this and then i will switch it up. was gonna do a second cardio session today but i was so pissed off after cutting the grass i said screw it! LOL..

[< <Samson> >]

How are you checking your Bf%?

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^^ 9site calipers

[digsy1983]

Have you started the 5/2 split yet? I might have to do something similar to move the diet onto different days (gym closes at 1pm weekends and how it falls now is a big pain in the ass)
Are you going off a hunch that the 5 low carb days will work better than the 3 1/2 low carbs days or have ppl done it this way b4? Also, do you think you could still gain lbm with the smaller anabolic window?

P. S your new/old avi still catches me off guard! Lol.

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[QUOTE=digsy1983;6170639]

Have you started the 5/2 split yet?

not yet. when my progress slows with ud2 i will move to 5/2.

I might have to do something similar to move the diet onto different days (gym closes at 1pm weekends and how it falls now is a big pain in the ass)

with UD2 the only workout that would fall on a weekend is the POWER which can be done in the am..

Are you going off a hunch that the 5 low carb days will work better than the 3 1/2 low carbs days or have ppl done it this way b4?

a hunch no. theres a guy i work with who is prepping for nationals right now who if he wins (and hes a favorite) will turn pro. he is the guy who told me about the 5/2 split.

Also, do you think you could still gain lbm with the smaller anabolic window?

gain LBM over the long run i doubt it. depending on gear of course. remember a cut is done in a deficit. deficit = loss of weight <---IMO this is more a rule and a gain in LBM IMO would be considered an exception. not impossible but an unlikely exception IMO>>> (gear can and does change things )

the purpose of the high carb days is not only to replenish lost muscle glycogen but also to try to replace lost LBM and stimulate the metabolism and help the body recover from the "dieting phase". while during those 2 days of high carbs u will be at a caloric surplus, theoretically u should be able to accumulate LBM for those 2 days but the evaluation IMO should be made over the life of the cut.

P. S your new/old avi still catches me off guard! Lol.

good! it does what is intended

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am fasted cardio done today and pm workout followed by carb load is gonna be good!

[RaginCajun]

what is this 5/2? 5 low days, 2 high days?

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what is this 5/2? 5 low days, 2 high days?

yeh thats gonna be my next "gear" once progress slows/halts on UD2

it was suggested by a bber i know who is very competitive and somewhat dominant in his field. it is his contest prep. i figd if i wanna get below 7.8% a contest prep diet should do it if anything will! we'll see..

[RaginCajun]

yeh thats gonna be my next "gear" once progress slows/halts on UD2

it was suggested by a bber i know who is very competitive and somewhat dominant in his field. it is his contest prep. i figd if i wanna get below 7.8% a contest prep diet should do it if anything will! we'll see..

i watched some of my friends years ago do something similar to this and had great results. i really need to stop eating carbs!

and yes, i think that would take you to the level you want to be at. you may want to consult fireguy, haven't seen him on here much lately though

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i watched some of my friends years ago do something similar to this and had great results. i really need to stop eating carbs!

and yes, i think that would take you to the level you want to be at. you may want to consult fireguy, haven't seen him on here much lately though

thx man i actually started a thread in the competitive BB section. i just found that place and ive been here a year! LOL

we'll see what those guys have to say..

[Back In Black]

i watched some of my friends years ago do something similar to this and had great results. i really need to stop eating carbs!

and yes, i think that would take you to the level you want to be at. you may want to consult fireguy, haven't seen him on here much lately though

No mate, you need to stop DRINKING carbs

[digsy1983]

with UD2 the only workout that would fall on a weekend is the POWER which can be done in the am..

i work shifts. if i worked mon-fri i could structre it no problem, but as it is id have to take leave every 3rd cycle and there's no guarentee id be able to do it. i may just put in another moderate day rather than a low day to move the days 1. see how i feel on the 4th low carb morning. no biggie really.

so far the carb cycling thing is going well tho, considering i nearly had a nervous breakdown on the 1st low carb days! didnt go onto maintenace for 2 weeks, just jumped straight on the low/depletion days. horrible experience to say the least!
needles to say tho ive read the lyle mcdonald ud2.0 book so there shouldnt be anymore suprises. (just the rapid bf % drop, finger crossed!!! )

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No mate, you need to stop DRINKING carbs

LOL.. And here i thought my pal had something to say to me.

[RaginCajun]

No mate, you need to stop DRINKING carbs

hahahaha soooooo true!

[RaginCajun]

LOL.. And here i thought my pal had something to say to me.

hahaha! and i continually get ripped in yours and not mine! hahaha! gotta love it!