almost good to go with first cycle, need vets advice on some things first

[Lunk1]

yeah i want to play it safe, I know I'm on the cusp of when AAS are safe and I don't want to push it too far, i though since turinabol is one of the most mild orals that I should roll with it, but i got a lot of people advising me otherwise.
I'm just concerned about the Arimidex because im afraid of gyno and getting moobs more than the devil himself, I hit my upper chest a ton so that I wont and I'd hate to lose all that work i did because of ****ing something up on my first cycle.

I believe where Neevor is coming from is the fact that there are some AI's that will shut down estro production entirely. The goal is to have just enough estro in your body to function properly.. The dosage of Adex that Austin is discussing with you will help keep estro low but not entirely supress it.

[Neevor]

I believe where Neevor is coming from is the fact that there are some AI's that will shut down estro production entirely. The goal is to have just enough estro in your body to function properly.. The dosage of Adex that Austin is discussing with you will help keep estro low but not entirely supress it.

Thank you Lunk

[Neevor]

Gyno doesn't just show up one morning.. you wake up and you've suddenly got tits. I'm Gyno prone. My family has a small history of male breast cancer and I have larger than average male mamory glands according to my doctor. So when I started I was super paranoid about Gyno too. I didn't end up needing anything to combat Gyno until I ran a huge testE, deca, and Dbol stack and even then you have warning. It's easy to tell cause your nips will be sore one morning and if you don't treat it they will continue to get more sore. If you still ignore this symptom then you are in danger. But again, its not like you won't have warning and time to treat it before anything permanent happens. That is my experience.

[Lunk1]

Gyno doesn't just show up one morning.. you wake up and you've suddenly got tits. I'm Gyno prone. My family has a small history of male breast cancer and I have larger than average male mamory glands according to my doctor. So when I started I was super paranoid about Gyno too. I didn't end up needing anything to combat Gyno until I ran a huge testE, deca, and Dbol stack and even then you have warning. It's easy to tell cause your nips will be sore one morning and if you don't treat it they will continue to get more sore. If you still ignore this symptom then you are in danger. But again, its not like you won't have warning and time to treat it before anything permanent happens. That is my experience.

I would suggest a good read on swifto's sticky about running an AI. If I remember in your greeting that you have been out of the "game" for a bit and things are constantly changing. Gyno is only 1 of the many estro related side affects to deal with.

Again... I know where your coming from but I think this is a safer than sorry issue.

[Neevor]

I would suggest a good read on swifto's sticky about running an AI. If I remember in your greeting that you have been out of the "game" for a bit and things are constantly changing. Gyno is only 1 of the many estro related side affects to deal with.

Again... I know where your coming from but I think this is a safer than sorry issue.

Well now I see St Pete has chimed in as well so I guess ill shut my mouth and reread swifto's post. Thanks for being gentle w me Lunk.. two years ago I felt like I was running w the big dogs. Guess the ol' pride didn't wanna admit I might need to play a little catch up. :-)

[Lunk1]

Well now I see St Pete has chimed in as well so I guess ill shut my mouth and reread swifto's post. Thanks for being gentle w me Lunk.. two years ago I felt like I was running w the big dogs. Guess the ol' pride didn't wanna admit I might need to play a little catch up. :-)

Its all good my friend, glad to see you back and active. I am looking forward to seeing your REtransformation in near future. You have alot of real knowledge to share so it will be nice having you around.

[smeeto]

Thanks so much for your help and advice everyone, this forum has been by far the best resource out there for double checking that the information i collected on my own was solid. I have much better peace of mind now knowing that you all are backing up my plan.