Am I big enough for gear?

[BBJT200]

Probably about to end up on TRT for life due to primary hypogonadism...looks like I got kicked in the nuts one too many times.

Anyways....given my profile pictures, would you guys say that I have a good enough base to use gear?




This was taken last week.

[DigitalGorilla]

this question doesnt really make sense

[gixxerboy1]

You def have a good base. I would just wait to after you get your trt sorted out. When you first start you require blood work more often to get your levels correct. Don't throw a test of by cycling

[BBJT200]

You def have a good base. I would just wait to after you get your trt sorted out. When you first start you require blood work more often to get your levels correct. Don't throw a test of by cycling

Thanks! I'll keep this in mind. Just wanted opinions before I start ordering.

[MickeyKnox]

this question doesnt really make sense

i think he means, does he have a solid muscle base to begin aas. answer is yes imho, but i agree with Gixx.

[dec11]

yeah, of course you've a good base for using, but do get that trt sorted first, if docs find strangely high levels they'll cut your trt

[DigitalGorilla]

ummm ok ...lol

[MickeyKnox]

ummm ok ...lol

whats so funny? i know you get this stuff, so what part did you find confusing?

[Honkey_Kong]

It'll probably not be for a year before you'll be all set with your TRT so that they don't frequently make you get your test levels checked. Every doctor's different, but if the doctor runs a test on your free or total test levels and they're off the fvcking chart, they might stop treating you.

[DigitalGorilla]

Ive never looked at a skinny guy and said - nah - your muscles are too small to start taking AAS .....just sounds wierd to me

[havanakid]

It'll probably not be for a year before you'll be all set with your TRT so that they don't frequently make you get your test levels checked. Every doctor's different, but if the doctor runs a test on your free or total test levels and they're off the fvcking chart, they might stop treating you.

I agree with this and from experience.Doc may want to test you every three months at least twice and then hell go to 6 months so just keep an eye on that first.Just ask bro.This way youll know when to start your cycle and by the time it ends your levels should be around where they were when you where just on the trt dosage.

[MickeyKnox]

Ive never looked at a skinny guy and said - nah - your muscles are too small to start taking AAS .....just sounds wierd to me

it's been proven time and again that if you neglect to build a solid foundation through diet and exercise, your aas gains will disappear faster than David Copperfield.

[DigitalGorilla]

Really? i guess I got lucky,.... When I started - I couldnt bench press 85 lbs lol --- it was bad! My first pull up - i was 34 lol

[MickeyKnox]

Really? i guess I got lucky,.... When I started - I couldnt bench press 85 lbs lol --- it was bad! My first pull up - i was 34 lol

i know..and look at you now! youre a force to be reckoned with! a long island head stomper!

[DigitalGorilla]

lol --- yea now I do 13 pull ups and I feel like I won the lotto! lol
Seriously tho _ I think I did get lucky -- yesterday was 6 weeks off - and my size and everything is right about on. In fact - not sure why - im guessing cause I took 7 days off and my arms were rested - but yesterday I put up better weight then I usually do.....even tho Im 100% sobur. Nothing but 2ius of GH and 10 IUS of B12.....

[MickeyKnox]

right on man, good job! how long you been running the gh at 2iu's?

OP, sorry for the highjack!

[DigitalGorilla]

SInce Aug 15th ..... I was running 4 to 6 ius a day for about a year....then I upped to 8ius a day for about 3 months.....and cut down in AUg about a week after my TEST cycle...

[DigitalGorilla]

Waiting on Nordi Pens now --- and i think im gonna go back to like 4Iu ED



BTW --- ALOT of people say that much GH does not matter - even my dealer says anything over 5 does nuthing - I disagree. I lost SERIOUSBF while at 8ius...and my diet sucked lol

[MickeyKnox]

what kind of change or noticeable difference on your protocol?

[DigitalGorilla]

When I started TEST - my diet went NUTS and the first two weeks I gained weight. Then I stepped the GH to 8 Ius...and I then reversed. I ended up losing about 1.5 lbs a week through out the whole cycle..... and my arms still got bigger - from a flabby 14inch to a solid 18 now..

[DigitalGorilla]

Id say if you can afford it - do it - if weight loss is your goal...or dropping BF i should say

[MickeyKnox]

how much of that do you attribute to hg? are you able to determine which compound did what? iow, have you run a cycle similar w/o gh for comparison?

[DigitalGorilla]

No Ive never done Test with out GH..but at a lower dose - i was gaining weight...So yes It could be the Test that made me lose weight and BF but that much is not likely - especiallly with my diet at the time. But we will find out soon....like I said I am gonna go back to higher IUS with in a week or two - Im waiting on Nordipens now.



I started Test at like 250lbs..... I ended up at 232 after cycle

[BBJT200]

Thank you for the advice everyone regarding my original question. I will wait on a cycle until my doc has a predictable blood work routine.
GH seems extremely expensive for what it does... :\

[MickeyKnox]

No Ive never done Test with out GH..but at a lower dose - i was gaining weight...So yes It could be the Test that made me lose weight and BF but that much is not likely - especiallly with my diet at the time. But we will find out soon....like I said I am gonna go back to higher IUS with in a week or two - Im waiting on Nordipens now.



I started Test at like 250lbs..... I ended up at 232 after cycle

ok man thanks for the info

Thank you for the advice everyone regarding my original question. I will wait on a cycle until my doc has a predictable blood work routine.
GH seems extremely expensive for what it does... :\

good call bro! and once again, sorry for the hj.

[SportbikerKid]

it's been proven time and again that if you neglect to build a solid foundation through diet and exercise, your aas gains will disappear faster than David Copperfield.

Naw, this is just a myth. Many people get this impression because skinny kids that know nothing about lifting and diet jump on AAS and make crazy gains (noob gains + AAS), then they come off and lose all their gains because of shitty diet and routine. If you know how to lift/eat right it doesn't matter what level you start using.

@OP start blasting and cruising man. If you test levels are really low, then you're totally wasting your time being natty. If your doctor is already set on TRT for you, just tell him that you're going to start using test from an underground source until he can get you set up with a prescription.

[DigitalGorilla]

Thank you for the advice everyone regarding my original question. I will wait on a cycle until my doc has a predictable blood work routine.
GH seems extremely expensive for what it does... :\

I have to STRONGLY disagree. Look up things writtin by Susanne Sommers or anything Stallone wrote about ... better yet - ill speak from my own point of view.
It not only CURED my 7 year bout of Insomnia, and lowered my blood pressure. It also helped with mood swings, getting up out of bed, and my joints. It also helped me shed 110+ (not just GH but it helped) and it gives you over all well being. For over the age of 35 - I say its a must (as long as you dont smoke)

[MickeyKnox]

Naw, this is just a myth. Many people get this impression because skinny kids that know nothing about lifting and diet jump on AAS and make crazy gains (noob gains + AAS), then they come off and lose all their gains because of shitty diet and routine. If you know how to lift/eat right it doesn't matter what level you start using.

are you a witness to what you just said?? you just contradicted yourself AND agreed with me at the same time. congratulations.

@OP start blasting and cruising man. If you test levels are really low, then you're totally wasting your time being natty. If your doctor is already set on TRT for you, just tell him that you're going to start using test from an underground source until he can get you set up with a prescription.

OP, do not listen to this advice. wait for your DOCTOR, not some "kid" on here shelling out reckless advice.

[DigitalGorilla]

I hate to sound like a pusher ...but GH changed my life. In my opinion....

[DigitalGorilla]

I will say this....If you tell your DR your gonna take underground test - chances are he WONT give you TRT that you need. I have to agree - wait till see what your dr says THEN make steps...

[MickeyKnox]

I have to STRONGLY disagree. Look up things writtin by Susanne Sommers or anything Stallone wrote about ... better yet - ill speak from my own point of view.
It not only CURED my 7 year bout of Insomnia, and lowered my blood pressure. It also helped with mood swings, getting up out of bed, and my joints. It also helped me shed 110+ (not just GH but it helped) and it gives you over all well being. For over the age of 35 - I say its a must (as long as you dont smoke)

I hate to sound like a pusher ...but GH changed my life. In my opinion....

totally get what youre saying Dig. what im saying is for the OP to wait until he squares away his trt with his doc before "blasting and cruising." he has an upcoming appt and need to follow it up first otherwise his bloods will be all over the map.

[MickeyKnox]

I will say this....If you tell your DR your gonna take underground test - chances are he WONT give you TRT that you need. I have to agree - wait till see what your dr says THEN make steps...

Exactly!

[BBJT200]

Yeah, no worries guys. I got this big on ~300 test levels naturally...It's not gonna kill me to wait another month or two. I know how to eat and lift, and still make gains if I really push.

I'll look into the HGH. The fat burning property is very appealing to me....would make it a lot easier to do my job AND have a life that doesn't revolve around the kitchen and the treadmill.

[dec11]

Ive never looked at a skinny guy and said - nah - your muscles are too small to start taking AAS .....just sounds wierd to me

its actually not, one should have a good natty base to build off

[MickeyKnox]

right on man! good sensibility right there bro! good luck with everything!

[dec11]

Yeah, no worries guys. I got this big on ~300 test levels naturally...It's not gonna kill me to wait another month or two. I know how to eat and lift, and still make gains if I really push.

I'll look into the HGH. The fat burning property is very appealing to me....would make it a lot easier to do my job AND have a life that doesn't revolve around the kitchen and the treadmill.

hgh def does make the diet easier work, im back on it on Friday

[gixxerboy1]

Naw, this is just a myth. Many people get this impression because skinny kids that know nothing about lifting and diet jump on AAS and make crazy gains (noob gains + AAS), then they come off and lose all their gains because of shitty diet and routine. If you know how to lift/eat right it doesn't matter what level you start using.

@OP start blasting and cruising man. If you test levels are really low, then you're totally wasting your time being natty. If your doctor is already set on TRT for you, just tell him that you're going to start using test from an underground source until he can get you set up with a prescription.

very bad idea

[DigitalGorilla]

totally get what youre saying Dig. what im saying is for the OP to wait until he squares away his trt with his doc before "blasting and cruising." he has an upcoming appt and need to follow it up first otherwise his bloods will be all over the map.

Mickey i wasnt disagreeing with you - but about what he said about GH. I feel its worth EVERY PENNNY AND MORE! But yes on the TEST-- talk to his DR 100%!

[DigitalGorilla]

Honestly - whether some agree or not - I feel GH is like the fountain of youth......losing wieght is just a GOOD SIDE EFFECT!

[MickeyKnox]

Mickey i wasnt disagreeing with you - but about what he said about GH. I feel its worth EVERY PENNNY AND MORE! But yes on the TEST-- talk to his DR 100%!

Honestly - whether some agree or not - I feel GH is like the fountain of youth......losing wieght is just a GOOD SIDE EFFECT!

oh no worries brother, like i said, i totally get youre saying.