I know it sounds funny, and most of.you guys will disagree but i was at what i believed to be my genetic Max.. i was at close to 6000 calories a day but yet still 3-5% bf and would only gain strength the size just wouldn't come even after being that size for a solid two years. Also all the weight i gained was lean muscle no water. Hard as a rock everywhere. This is what confuses me when.people say never to run oral only? I got better results then their injection cycles? Remebr it was only 4 weeks thatd close to a pound a day