What cycle would you recommend to an ecto guy, struggling to gain weight?

[Dukkit]

Go to the diet/nutrition section here.

There are many members that are amazing with working out macros and solid diet plans.

They will help you find whats best for you.

[MikeRotch]

Go to the diet/nutrition section here.

There are many members that are amazing with working out macros and solid diet plans.

They will help you find whats best for you.

Thanks a lot! I'll do that. You've been an amazing help!

[cherrydrpepper]

Hi Mike. I don't know what I think about phrases like "ectomorph" or "hard gainer". Whatever those are though, I am one also. From a young age It has been very difficult for me to put on weight. I respect you for performing the deadift, bench and squat. If you are not making gains, I would dramatically up your calories. I am about to start drinking a gallon of milk a day again. I did this a couple of years back and saw fast gains. I have always been a milk drinker - to me its like drinking water its no big deal. I also have no lactose intolerance issues. I drink skim and it doesn't bother me. I have read a couple of times that Arnie would drink two glasses of milk with egg and ice cream blended in a shake and a couple other things added. I am not trying to be a proponent for milk though. Up your calories in a more clean matter if you want (steak/fish/chicken brownrice/sweetpotato). I would up it at least 1000 or do more research. If you are really doing the universally best exercises and not growing, it is a calorie issue. For me, I have never been a good calorie counter and drinking a gallon of milk is the easy street. If you can cook up an extra steak and potato good deal.

I had just read your initial post but went back and read your other posts. Mike you are not eating anywhere near enough. Let me give you the short version. If you do juice, you will blow up 15 or 20 pounds, you'll have to come off after a while so your nuts keep making testosterone on their own and you can have babies later in life and still produce natural testosterone, then you will lose all your gains as soon as you come off. I know this from first hand.

You need to change your lifestyle to eat a lot more than you are. You have a great base to build on. Let me tell you something about us ectomorphs. We eat slowly, we are picky eaters and we tend to not finish our plate. This is my natural tendency - Im guessing you are the same.

EAT FASTER. Consume your meals quickly chop chop. Get the food in your belly and digesting. Don't pick at the food. Don't eat half now and let the other half go cold and sit around. Eat it all, and quickly.

EAT MORE. Like I said before.. got to make a lifestyle change here Mike. Do you want to have big muscles? Got to eat big too then. Got to eat like you are a warrior. Eat every 3 hours.

It will take research to get you where you need to be but hopefully this will get you started gaining.

[songdog]

Bro everything revolves around your diet.Beacuse if you cant put on weight now.You will lose anything you gain on cycle.Beacuse you must feed those new gains.Like the others said hit the diet section.Post your diet and they will help you.Believe me you are not the only one like that.But a lot of guys just aint eating right and not half of wat they think they are.Good luck Bro looking forward to hearing on your progress.

[MikeRotch]

Hi Mike. I don't know what I think about phrases like "ectomorph" or "hard gainer". Whatever those are though, I am one also. From a young age It has been very difficult for me to put on weight. I respect you for performing the deadift, bench and squat. If you are not making gains, I would dramatically up your calories. I am about to start drinking a gallon of milk a day again. I did this a couple of years back and saw fast gains. I have always been a milk drinker - to me its like drinking water its no big deal. I also have no lactose intolerance issues. I drink skim and it doesn't bother me. I have read a couple of times that Arnie would drink two glasses of milk with egg and ice cream blended in a shake and a couple other things added. I am not trying to be a proponent for milk though. Up your calories in a more clean matter if you want (steak/fish/chicken brownrice/sweetpotato). I would up it at least 1000 or do more research. If you are really doing the universally best exercises and not growing, it is a calorie issue. For me, I have never been a good calorie counter and drinking a gallon of milk is the easy street. If you can cook up an extra steak and potato good deal.

I had just read your initial post but went back and read your other posts. Mike you are not eating anywhere near enough. Let me give you the short version. If you do juice, you will blow up 15 or 20 pounds, you'll have to come off after a while so your nuts keep making testosterone on their own and you can have babies later in life and still produce natural testosterone, then you will lose all your gains as soon as you come off. I know this from first hand.

You need to change your lifestyle to eat a lot more than you are. You have a great base to build on. Let me tell you something about us ectomorphs. We eat slowly, we are picky eaters and we tend to not finish our plate. This is my natural tendency - Im guessing you are the same.

EAT FASTER. Consume your meals quickly chop chop. Get the food in your belly and digesting. Don't pick at the food. Don't eat half now and let the other half go cold and sit around. Eat it all, and quickly.

EAT MORE. Like I said before.. got to make a lifestyle change here Mike. Do you want to have big muscles? Got to eat big too then. Got to eat like you are a warrior. Eat every 3 hours.

It will take research to get you where you need to be but hopefully this will get you started gaining.

I know what you mean when it comes to ectomorphs/hardgainers. It's not really a "condition" per say. Some people are just built with bigger appetites I reckon.. Which is what led to their body types in the first place.

But thanks a lot for the tips! I am eating incredibly lean, which is why gaining might be a bit harder.. And also, I'm lactose intolerant. So that's kinda out of the question. But I've started experimenting with my own weightgainer shakes.. Like, 0.5 liter of water, 2 tsp of peanutbutter, 1 cup of oats, and 1 scoop of whey. That is around 500 calories I reckon, which is a good start on the day if you ask me.. But again, thanks, I'll try changing my mindset when it comes to eating!

Bro everything revolves around your diet.Beacuse if you cant put on weight now.You will lose anything you gain on cycle.Beacuse you must feed those new gains.Like the others said hit the diet section.Post your diet and they will help you.Believe me you are not the only one like that.But a lot of guys just aint eating right and not half of wat they think they are.Good luck Bro looking forward to hearing on your progress.

Thanks for the support! Guess I'll start with fixing up the diet..!